The super Melo to Portland thread + The Big Blockbuster

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Should the Blazers puruse Carmelo Anthony?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Not No but Hell No

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Gay has rarely played on a winning team... Same with Carmelo.

    In Melo's prime, he had a decent team around him. He's not in his prime anymore.

    Melo shoots more than Gay on the same or worse efficiency.

    The year he had 8rpg he was playing 39 minutes per game.

    He had one year of 4apg, for as ball dominant as he is, to average only 3 assists over the course of his career if horrible.

    In the past 6 years he hasn't shot over 47.6% from 2pt. That's a 95 ORTG on shots he shoots from 2pt land. And it's not like his aggressiveness form 2pt creates good shots for other players, as his assist numbers show.

    He's shot between 33% and 36% from 3pt in the last 3 years. That's average to below average.

    Apparently his "star status" will bring more whistles... however, his free throw rate was .26 (compared to Lillard's .36).

    He literally does nothing good for a team. Just playing team-offense will result in better shooting percentages than if Melo shoots. He's not efficient, not a passer, a horrible defender, not a good locker presence (like some suggest), he's on a horrible contract, he wouldn't embrace Portland or the fanbase.

    I'm not over selling it. He'd be a horrible acquisition.
     
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  2. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    He's not a star.
     
  3. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I was talking about the present. Not 2004, 2006, 2008, or 2010.

    Lets look at last year and who has the edge:

    EFFICIENCY: Advantage: Rudy Gay
    Gay:

    48.3 2pt% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in the last 8 years)
    37.2 3pt% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in the last 3 years)
    85.5 FT% (Higher than Carmelo's posted in his career)

    PASSING: Even
    Assists Per 36:
    Gay:
    2.9
    Melo: 3.0

    DEFENSE: Advantage: Rudy Gay
    Gay:

    1.6 Steals per 36 (Melo's highest career stl per 36 rate is 1.2)
    0.9 Blocks per 36 (Higher than Carmelo's posted in his career)
    0.4 DBPM (Carmelo's never posted a positive DBPM in his career)

    Other stats:

    Free Throw Rate:
    Gay:
    .312 (Higher than Melo in the past 3 years)

    Rebounding:
    REBs Per 36
    Gay:
    6.8
    Melo: 6.2

    The stats back me up, so don't tell me to "GTFO"...
     
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  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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  5. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I'm passionate about my opinions. Rubs some people the wrong way but that will happen on an internet forum.
     
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    Melo won college tourney and has played in the WCF where he played well.
     
  7. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Napier won a college tourney too.
     
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  8. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Wrong. Melo played on a winning team 10 years in a row. DEN had a winning record all 8 years he played there and NYK had a winning record his first two years there. Whenever he had decent teammates, his team had a winning record.

    Gay has played on a winning team for three and a half seasons - 2.5 in MEM and 1 in TOR.

    This is what I mean by overselling your case. You toss out nonsense like this that isn't even close to true and expect us to believe it.

    Again you have some valid points (many I agree with), but when you make statements like this, you are undermining your own credibility.

    BNM
     
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    I'm only focusing on his years with NYK, which are the most relevant. By winner, I mean making the WCF. He's hardly had success in the playoffs. Therefore, I don't view him as a winner.

    Gay's stats who he's a better player.
     
  10. Blazers Roy

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    Portland was a 2nd tier team capable of sometimes winning 1st tier teams when it had Lamarcus.

    Carmelo is definitely more skilled than LMA (even though i think they are both soft).

    I'm not saying Carmelo would take us to the top, but i'm open-minded about bringing him over.
     
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    He is considered a star by the NBA and he's still a big name player. Therefore Carmelo is a disgruntled star.
     
  12. tlongII

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    Carmelo's 33 so I'm not feeling it.
     
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    He's a popular name playing in NYC, but he doesn't play at an all-star level or even a good-starter level.
     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    I hope you're not taking offense. I'm just ribbin' you bro... If you heard my voice saying GTFO I think you'd understand I'm just fuckin' witcha..
     
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    I know haha if I hadn't met you before I mighta but I know you're cool.

    I'm just saying it as in, I can back up my statements so there's no reason for me to get out!
     
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    Yes. I want the "unnecessary attention". The more national attention will bring more accolades and esteem around the league and especially to our star players (aka all-star appearances and all NBA teams preferential treatment from refs etc). We have two of the better franchise players around the league, they are fun to watch and more than that just good people. More attention nation wide makes us less of a small market team and gives our guys the recognition they deserve. We all know stars in this league are treated differently why wouldnt you want the stars we have to get that?

    As for Dame and CJ...You think Wade never helped Bron or taught him anything? Jabbar never helped Magic? Just cause youre an all star player doesnt mean you have nothing to learn smh...

    Your personal beef with the idea of who you think Melo is what is reaching here. You think he's just a shit person based on nothing other than how he "seems to you" He's actually been to the WCF in the last 15 years so why don't you climb down from your soap box about him being a loser. Cause he's been farther than ANY Blazer team in that time frame.

    Fact of the matter is if the rumors are true or close to true as have been posted here then youre a fool not to make that deal. He'd be an invaluable source of knowledge and experience that this team sorely lacks. Not to mention a top 15 player in the NBA at a position of need.
     
  17. riverman

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    dude you're addicted to buzzkill these days....one podcast is all it took? Admit it...you'd give your left nut to win the gold under coach K and Thibs
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    What a buzzkill.

    Melo is 33 and declining. He's never been able to guard a chair. This doesn't close the gap with the Warriors.

    IF this were to happen Jordan Bell better be the pick at #20.
     
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    dame hasn
    gay was never the focus of the kings offense. Demarcus cousins was. melo's stats would likely get a bump in efficiency too if cousins was commanding double teams on the knicks. with the likes of prigioni, FELTON and Shumpert for a starting supporting cast, jr smith contributing in2012-2013, bargnani, stodemire@20minutes a night felton still and smith and chandler contributing, and shumpert, bargnani and calderone were his best teammates though chandler played 55 games, in 2014-2015. those rosters were not good enough to make the conference finals especially when the team defenses could lock in on Anthony and not worry about anyone else in a series. you are being disingenuous in attacking Anthony as a loser without regard to the knick rosters and by sighting gay's stats as superior while he was second banana on the kings who won even less often.
     
  20. BonesJones

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    I'm not addicted to buzzkill, or else I'd be addicted to the idea of Carmelo.
     
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