OT The U.S. has wasted over $14 trillion on warfare over the past three decades

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    Well, the money went from the government to other people and corporations. It didn't just vanish into thin air (well, except the money that vanished into thin air).

    So no, we didn't waste it, we spent it. Like spending all your money on candy and then crying about not being able to afford a toothbrush.
     
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    This is probably the most important issue we face.....military escalation vs infrastructure spending.....problem is, the Hawks are in the white house now...arms dealers are going to make out like bandits......not only the cost of war, but the waste of equipment we just leave all over the planet. Never made sense to me...we don't need a wall....we need a decent border patrol and bigger Coast Guard....our soldiers and sailors should be spending their paychecks in the states, not overseas. The military could actually accomplish a lot if their work days were focused on fixing our nation at home instead of propping up dictators in countries that hate us anyway. Guards standing posts all around the globe could be posted on the borders of our own country instead of Korea or the middle east.
     
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    This is so good! Perhaps you should try to expand your reach.
    Now is and excellent time to pull out of Korea, maybe Japan too, before those mean North Koreans do some serious shit. If we pull out and and mind our business, those meanies will become the nice people we all know the can be.

    It might give the Russians and epiphany too. Perhaps Putin will send us a Reset button. The Democrats can fight over who gets to push it and grin for the media.

    But Wow man! The cost savings are potentially huge. You bring every one home, and we don't need Aircraft Carriers. We can shut down those shipyards and save the cost of millions of jobs.
    This is Yuge! You should rush this to the head Dem, now man.

    We can all live the life, sip the good stuff, pick the strings and groove with the tune. The world will love us.
     
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    oh no...you don't get it Marz.....the Navy is important....just be nice if they docked in Coos Bay and spent their fun money instead of some port in Japan or Korea...We have a lot of coastline ...need boats...need bridges and power grids upgraded much more though...which would create...cough cough...jobs
     
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    We have a Coast guard. Under your plan, why do you need a Navy? We have air strips up the whole coast and in the Islands. We save big man! Peaceful mega tolerant souls, happily living our days.
     
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    I'm already happy living our days...just thought a little extra sailor cash might be helpful to the good folks on the Oregon Coast....and yes..we have a Coast Guard AND a Navy! Even some rogue sea captains without commission!
     
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    I'd like an efficient power grid and high speed rail system to visit my grandkids more than sabre rattling in Turkey and Korea
     
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    I try not to blow your cover dude!
     
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    We all know most of that $14 trillion disappeared into deep pockets.
     
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    Now? Lol see the thread title.
     
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    Ike obviously didn't know anything about war though....
     
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    I think you are right.
     
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    Ike didn't care for Harry's posturing against the Soviets...I don't think he really wanted to be prez anyway....his vice prez really did
     
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    I'm thinking $14 trillion is a number made up, with no actual basis in fact or accounting.

    If you're pissed about money spent for no good, we have $10T of that the past 8 years (with actual basis in fact and accounting) and the yearly interest on the debt is $400B (in just 10 months this year, so far), or $4T over 10 years. That $4T would buy a lot of things without the need to raise anyone's taxes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_cost_of_the_Iraq_War

    The costs of the 2003-2010 Iraq War are often contested, as academics and critics have unearthed many hidden costs not represented in official estimates. The most recent major report on these costs come from Brown University in the form of the Costs of War, which totaled just over $1.1 trillion.

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    The most recent CBO report, which was conducted after the end of combat operations and hence did not have to estimate future costs, was released in December 2014 and placed the cost at $0.815 trillion.[9]
     
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    costs of nation building Iraq and Afghanistan also include long term funding of medical and disability for vets and families, replacing the arms munitions equipment and vehicles used destroyed or left behind, a continuing military presence to train and equip the rebuilding nations military, the infrastructure replacements and diplomatic missions to those countries. oh, and remember the debt service for monies borrowed to prosecute these wars. the bulk of the costs have yet to be accounted or paid and will certainly exceed $1.1 trillion
     
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