When Lebron went back to Cleveland I said at the time I would gut our team for Lebron. Many argued with me that Lebron could not do it on his own, but my argument was that vets would flock to Portland to play with him. Having said that he has now played 100 games a year for 14 straight years. At what point will he slow down?
That's the thing. He is some NASA project and if watch DeepBlue v Kasparov I would always find human capabilities more fun.
I am not understanding why you put both Lillard and CJ as untouchable. We have two Shooting guards and one of them is the best bait to bring a quality player to round out a team.
I didn't realize how young we were until I looked and saw that only Evan Turner would have any memories of watching the Blazers play the Bulls in the finals.
Many people, myself included, believe that most trades including either Dame or CJ would be a lateral move and not improve the team in a way or enough to make such a trade valid. Do you think NO is going to split them in the off season? I certainly don't and the poll doesn't allow for more than 10 options, so I had to pair a couple up or remove a few. Since I believe it more likely that any one of the many others get moved before these two, I thought it fine to put them both together.
I think we have two guards that can shoot very well. Not two SG's. Dame is a PG all the way and CJ is clearly a SG. So IMO the debate is whether you want to trade CJ for another SG who defends better but can't score as well, or keep both and find a 3rd guard who can compliment them both. (Regardless of who starts) Either way they will get their minutes. In other words ET, or a better version of ET.
Ah! I did not understand the logic, I didn't realize this was the result of a poll. Something like a vote in Congress to get the best options.
I think it would be a better poll if you put CJ and Dame seperate. There is absolutely no question Ed Davis would be available for the right price. Not seeing a lateral move either with moving Dame or CJ. By moving one, you could get a better fit. Using the lateral move logic, you could have said Plumlee for the Beast was lateral when in reality we are seeing a much improved team because of it.
Good point on the Plums trade, but I cant change the poll, but do you think NO is goign to split the pair? If not then its all moot right?
No one is untouchable. Everyone is tradeable for the right price. Here's how I value the roster: * Dame (core) * CJ (core) * Nurk (core) --- * Harkless (only 23, on a great contract, 10 ppg, 49% fg, 35% 3s, 4.6 reb. I think he still has up-side.) * Crabbe (Excellent 3 point shooter, but one dimensional and expensive.) * Vonleh (Showing promise and very young, but still has a ways to go to earn that starter spot.) --------- - Aminu (Don't dribble the ball more than 2 times!) - Turner (Don't shoot outside the key!) --- - Davis (Good role player. Good contract.) - Napier (Good role player. Good contract.) --- - Leonard (... but he has a good personality.) --- - Layman (meh) - Quarterman (meh) - Connaughton (meh)
I didn't vote because I don't think anyone on this team should be untouchable. However, reality is what it is so: Dame: politically untouchable CJ: pridefully untouchable (would require a new GM) personally, if I had to choose, I would keep CJ over Dame. Nurk: untouchable potential (would have to be for someone with a higher ceiling, not sure who that would be) Vonleh: untouchable potential (finally showing signs of life so I can't see him traded unless for a big upside) [Leonard: if he really turned it on and hit the 3, rebounded and defended into the playoffs, he would be as Vonleh] Aminu: not untouchable, but I think the team values him way more than the fans here do Everyone else is fungible.
He traded guys he loved in the CP3 deal so it is not impossible. If George agreed to an extension, do you not think he would jump at the chance if it cost CJ and Leonard?
