The way I look at the 2003 draft..

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  1. Pacers fan forever

    Pacers fan forever BBW Elite Member

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    Why am I not surprised this thread was created by a Raptors fan?You don't see me complaining about JO or Granger not getting respect, you don't see BCB complaining about Redd not getting any respect. You don't see ASUfan complaining about Marion not getting respect, you don't see Rok complaining about Josh Howard.....Calm down with the homerism guys.Bosh gets enough respect, heck he was the starting PF in the all-star game, even though JO had a better season than him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jun 14 2007, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why am I not surprised this thread was created by a Raptors fan?You don't see me complaining about JO or Granger not getting respect, you don't see BCB complaining about Redd not getting any respect. You don't see ASUfan complaining about Marion not getting respect, you don't see Rok complaining about Josh Howard.....Calm down with the homerism guys.Bosh gets enough respect, heck he was the starting PF in the all-star game, even though JO had a better season than him.</div>What are you talking about? This thread is about the way Bosh has been the least heralded out of the Big 4 of him, LeBron, Wade, and Anthony. Up until this year, he was the one that got the least amount of attention.
     
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    He gets plenty of f*cking attention. Starting all-star forward? JO was better than he was. That's enough right there. Besides, Toronto players will never, ever get as much attention as USA players
     
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    Since when did it become the big 4? It has always been the big 3 of the '03 draft.
     
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    See that's what I mean /\
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noballer07 @ Jun 14 2007, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are you talking about? This thread is about the way Bosh has been the least heralded out of the Big 4 of him, LeBron, Wade, and Anthony. Up until this year, he was the one that got the least amount of attention.</div>it's because he's the least talented of the four.
     
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    That was a really strong draft...
     
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    Of course Bosh is overshadowed by the other 3...he really doesn't deserve the kind of recognition the other 3 have.From the beginning the big 3 had a bigger impact. Bron was a freak in his first 3 seasons (like only 4th player in NBA history to average 27/7/7...he did this in 2nd season) and got his team into the playoffs in year 3. Wade played huge in playoffs his first year, then exploded in year 2, and in year 3 won a title with amazing playoff performance. Carmelo should have been ROTY his first year, led team to playoffs, then started his rise to being on of the best scorers in the game.Bosh, meanwhile, had to play behind VC early on, and didn't start to become dominant 'till year 4. He also had no playoff experience before this year.Bottom line is Bosh gets plent of recognition by fans and has solidified himself as one of the league's best big men. But he has never been, and still isn't, in the league of the big 3.
     
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    The star that will be closest to a ring next year is Josh Howard, he needs his love.
     
  10. Roaming

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    Why is this turned into a Bosh 'gets no love' thread? Im actually speculating how that how the "Big Three" were all projected to win rings in the couple of years coming into the NBA. Im saying that to me, Bosh, who no one in BBW can say has been shadowed by the big 3, looks like in 5 years, will be the leader of the pack, not in terms of skill or greatness, but in the running for the title, its just all in place.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Why am I not surprised this thread was created by a Raptors fan?You don't see me complaining about JO or Granger not getting respect, you don't see BCB complaining about Redd not getting any respect. You don't see ASUfan complaining about Marion not getting respect, you don't see Rok complaining about Josh Howard.....Calm down with the homerism guys.Bosh gets enough respect, heck he was the starting PF in the all-star game, even though JO had a better season than him.</div>PFF I think you should calm down. JO, Granger, Redd, Marion, and Josh Howard really have nothing to do with the first 5 picks of the 2003 draft and how they turned out. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He gets plenty of f*cking attention. Starting all-star forward? JO was better than he was. That's enough right there. Besides, Toronto players will never, ever get as much attention as USA players</div>And you call me a homer? PFF, Bosh has beat JO in every stat except for blocks, which Oneal leads by about 1 in. His team was better, and Jermaine Oneal was also worse this season than the last. Im sorry, but please think before you say something stupider. So in reality, you have no bases to your comments or your B*tching. I again am reinforcing that Im not complaining about Bosh not getting respect, but people not noticing he is probably in one of the best situations to be in right now, and in terms of the long run, that includes Lebron.
     
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    <span style="font-family:Arial">Sadly, Chris Bosh may never get the recognition he deserves. Wade, Lebron, and Carmelo are more marketable players. Big men are never going to be as marketable as an all star guard, that's the way it is going to be, regardless of what happens. Playing in Toronto where he gets little to none national exposure is another problem as well.1. Wade, Melo, and Lebron are more marketable.2. Big men don't get as much fame as guards do, it happens.3. He plays in Toronto.4. He must be getting noticed by somebody, since he was voted a starter in the ASG.</span>
     
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    Does it really matter though? Im a fan for a team that gets completely overlooked all the time...even if we're winning. Ive learned its not about how many commercials your player is in, or if people say hes better than so and so...if hes getting more Ws than Ls for us...its all good. Fans should stop crying about being underpreciated...when your in the same class as future legends like LeBron and Wade...of course you shouldnt get more exposure than them(unless your just as good).
     
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    I cant begin to stress how much Im not stressing on Bosh not being appreciated. Im saying (correct me if Im wrong) that Chris Bosh will be in the best position to win a title in 5 years. Thats it. Im not a homer, Im not saying hes not appreciated because with that draft, he might as well never will be. Im saying, in 5 years whos get the best shot to win the title?
     
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    Lebron, obviouslyLebron has carried his team all the way to the finals this year. He has experience under his belt, I won't be surprised if Lebron has 2 chips in the next 5 years
     
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    1) Bosh plays in Canada, so he doesn't get noticed as much.2) Carmelo, DWade, and Lebron are still really hyped up because of their rookie seasons. I guess people just don't want to fit Bosh in with that group...3) Those three have all the shoe deals and stuff, so they're noticed more and they're more hyped up by the media.It really doesn't bother me that much. We are a playoff team now. We don't need anyone to recognize us anymore.
     
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    Im sorry to be honest, but you Raptors fans seem to whine about the stupidest things.The #1 thing that bugs me is when you guys still whine about VC leaving you guys. Get over it. He made the decision. Maybe he was disloyal but it happened. Its over.Now, you guys are complaining Bosh dosent get the attention he deserves? Who cares??! Personally, if I was a fan I wouldnt want him to get as much attention as Bron and Melo. The Raptors get looked at as a TEAM not Chris Bosh. All the publicity one guy gets, can be a distraction to a team. Besides, I think Bosh gets quite a bit of attention anyway.
     
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    I love how some people just clump a bunch of fans into one group. Who is "we"? As far as I'm concerned, RF#1 is just stating that Bosh will have a better shot at the title while not being in the spotlight for most of his career.
     
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    Jermaine O'neal is a better player then Bosh is(PFF was actually right saying that, although im sure it was more homerism) Jermaine O'neal anchored a team that made it to the finals, not to mention is a much better defender. Jermaine O'neal is showing signs of slowing down with recent injuries but I still think his offensive skillset is at least on the same level as Bosh. Bosh is a great player but unless JO's injured, id take JO anyday at this point.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PrimeTime @ Jun 15 2007, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bosh is a great player but unless JO's injured, id take JO anyday at this point.</div>So that's what, like 50/50?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 15 2007, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So that's what, like 50/50?</div>I think Jermaine O'neal is fully rehabilitated now. If he's traded to a team like the Lakers next season I would expect him to be back in good shape. At least 20/10 with an all-defensive team consideration.
     

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