Religion Theological query about souls

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  1. rasheedfan2005

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    Romans 8: 28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. 29For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

    One of my favorite verses because it makes just about every snake in the grass bullshit church building preacher squirm. If the chosen elect were predestined from the very foundation then i theorize that the soul is eternal. Perhaps the soul take on its physical from via a computer program (DNA)

    A program can remain dormant on a flash drive, but it doesnt actually do anything until an intelligent being plugs it in and hits execute.

    The penis enters the vagina and God hits the execute button. Wallah, a baby is born with all the programming it needs to grow and mature.

    If matter is never created or destroyed (law of conservation of mass) then i believe it to be scientificly plausible for the "program" to continue even when the matter takes on a different form.
     
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    A lot of people like to limit god to a time line. If you look at a time line, there is distance between events. If you place a dot far anough between 2 points above the line, the dot can be equadistant to both moments of time. Now make your line a circle, and place a dot in the center. Now that dot is equadistant to all events on the time line. Now go a step farther, and make the time line a double helix like a strand of DNA, and run a line straight though the center (God) now god is the constant, and time (his program) wraps around him, now i can be created in 1986 and your mother can be created in 1858. But to God we were created at the same instant, the beginning, his constant, and were placed on the line by himself, the constant.
     
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    Let's continue with "Really Tortured Explanations" for $800

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    Perhaps out brains have been prgrammed to be limited in the dimensions we can understand. We understand height, length, width, and we have discovered time as the 4th dimension. But physicists theorize there are as many as 13 dimensions. Perhaps concious life is a dimension, perhaps angels and demons exist in another dimension? Perhaps God is in a dimension we cant see, and that is why he gave us a book, something we can understand, to communicate with us?
     
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    Meh i kinda figured the thread was just to troll. But i like thinking about this shit anyway.
     
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    I know critically thinking and theorizing and looking at lifes biggest questions from all sorts of angles is too hard for liberals. Thats why i stopped being a liberal when i learned to critically think.

    In before "lol flying spaghetti monster" and intellectual superiority complexes.
     
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    We could all be living in Lisa Simpson's petrie dish for all I know.
     
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    I dunno, lots of liberals get stoned too.

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    Same here. Dan Brown got me curious about the topic, when he discussed an experiment happening at CERN in one of his books. They were trying to discover the actual weight of a soul. True fact in a fiction novel??? Got me. It's been researched in the early 1900's, and again even more recently.

    http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=204863

    In 1988, Noetic Science carried out experiments on the largest number of patients and concluded that the human soul weighs 1/3,000th of an ounce. The experiments were carried out by East German researchers who weighed more than 200 terminally ill patients just before and immediately after their deaths. In each case the weight loss was exactly the same – 1/3,000th of an ounce.

    Fasinating, if you open your mind up to the possibilities....
     
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    That which you need to know so life is not difficult here.
     
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    This couldn't be said more.
     
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    Good questions, I'm not 100% convinced of anything, this is just the way I lean

    1. Why do I think we have souls? I've heard a number of compelling NDE, haunting, reincarnation etc stories to make me believe our consciousness does somehow persist after the brain stops functioning.

    2. How is the soul created? I've thought about this as well. The idea that there's a "soul factory" somewhere that is dutifully monitoring the number of human being born, so it can ship a soul down to each baby is hard to believe. Also, I have to wonder why souls would choose certain lives. Who would want to incarnate as a woman in Afghanistan?

    I figure that perhaps the soul is created by the body/brain, and is able to persist after death. So in that sense individuals are the "soul factory". Some souls can chose to return, but for many they are just getting started.
     
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    Soul brother too beaucoup.
     
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    maybe that ignorance is bliss?
     
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    Kurt Vonnegut got me thinking about this long ago but the Taoists believe this totally....aboriginal tribes also have more of this concept seeing the flora and fauna as an extension of the soul rather than something to dominate just because we're human
     
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    Odds are, the souls in our mammalian flesh bags are strikingly similar to say a bear or a rats soul.

    As far as ghosts go, these is a lot about energy that we don't understand yet, I really doubt that if they exist they have consciousness though.
     
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    The ancient Greeks believed that the soul was simply what made something alive. So basically grass has a soul as well. However, Aristotle did think there were different kinds of soul - grass had the simplest, the "nutritive" soul. He also believed that the soul was destroyed when the body was, though, so no afterlife possible.
     
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    That's the reason for the title of this movie.
     
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    They also believed the gods had sex with a lot of humans....giving some humans more vibrant life juice than others
     

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