Politics These tariffs are the biggest pain in my ass

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  1. riverman

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    I'd also point out that most factories in China, Japan, Taiwan and Korea outsource for labor from the Phillipines, Indonesia and Malaysia....non Chinese factory workers....and they are taken advantage of and paid less than nationals....international corporations have been taking advantage of over populated areas where it's tough to make a living and get ahead to begin with. My brother in law has a textile business in Taiwan....he hires every family member or in law he can …..pays them well...in Chinese culture family is the business, bank, and insurance company.They have a motto....family, food, money. Politics don't float their boat in most cases. Take away the food, family and money and you'll have a problem
     
  2. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Total wad of BS you rattled off there.

    Cost of housing reflects the quality of the housing, the infrastructure, and the quality of the location, no matter what part of the world you're in. Quality of the country reflects the quality of the culture. Home prices in America have recovered to about where they were in 2004, before the boom and bust. With an historic 6+% average increase in value in Oregon over the last 100 years, that means homes are still drastically underpriced as an investment today.

    Shithole countries literally have shithole housing. China, like Costa Rica, has no sanitation systems. Their entire populations dump their shit in the rivers, lakes, and back yards. All day every day.

    Costa Rica has no actual law enforcement, very little freedom (they are very much slaves due to their own sheeplike apathy and lack of motivation), and rampant violent crime. Their citizens live in corrugated metal shacks devoid of plumbing and/or heating/cooling. If they are wealthy enough to own some property with a well, the government forbids them from running water except between 7-9am and 5-8pm. The government is capitalizing on illegal aliens from Nicaragua, actually passing a law that they can be paid far below the minimum wage there. They do not deport them because CR has no military and only a few local police for enforcement of any laws. Costa Ricans are at the mercy of the failed socialist/drug cartel countries surrounding them, and will need either China or the US to provide military to save them soon.

    China has no actual freedom and forces over 3 million slaves to work 100+ hours a week for a cell and some gruel. Most Asian countries are similar in lack of freedom and lack of quality in every conceivable way. Nobody wants to live there.

    Grandparents provide free child care for both working parents in America, also for both non-working parents, often actually raising the children as the parents die from drug abuse or become career criminals. Often providing food and shelter for the entire extended family during the dire Obama years.

    There is not one single American worker, factory worker or otherwise, that is unable to purchase a home in today's active market with historically low interest rates. It is less expensive than renting, and loans are available with as little as zero down. It is no more difficult than buying a car. It remains the #1 pathway to self-sufficiency in America, being the most stable and ultimately profitable investment an American can make. If you have a fulltime job, you can own your own home on your own land.


    I know very few people who pay other people to care for their children so they can go to work rather than raise them themselves. It's an anomaly in rural America. We raise the children we have or we don't have children. It's called personal responsibility. The children who are raised by businesses rather than by their parents most often end up in prison or on the street, or just never know love.

    Many American workers work 6-7 days a week, work 2 jobs, work overtime, work untold hours on salary...we do what it takes to have a better life than less-motivated people in shithole countries.
     
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  3. riverman

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    TRIGGERED!!!! Back at ya.....you can keep spewing your false sense of superiority over other cultures and lifestyles at your own loss....and greed is the game you're propping up, not sensible culture
     
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    There are many....but you aren't looking for those folks.
     
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    talk about a wad of bs.....
     
  6. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Most Americans eat corn flakes 3 times a day, and have known their podiatrist since childhood! Many Americans have an extra toe that they are completely unaware of! Most Americans do not believe black rabbits exist!

    Tune in again tomorrow for more random made up nonsense about Real Americans!

    -Maris61
     
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    I find it completely morally irresponsible, racist, derogatory, and repugnant to speak about other countries, and other cultures the way you do. I'm sorry but that is WORSE to me than insulting someone personally. It's ego, its greed, its undeserved self-appreciation when US Citizens talk about other countries that way. Yes, many people have it good in the US, but the US isn't without problems. Just like every other country in the world, has it's bad and good.

    You're literally spewing hate towards entire countries, it's people, their cultures, what their values are, and that is in my book the absolute core of what is wrong with humanity.
     
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    thank you....
     
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    Total wad of BS you rattled off there.
    But you're a meme account and don't actually believe anything you put on this website.
    So it's w/e.
     
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    While it is refreshing to read an actual opinion from you, rather than a c+p one sided propaganda article. There is so much wrong with your view, on so many levels. I don't know where to begin. But you opinions begs the question.

    Have you ever been to any of these Asia countries, and if so, how much time did you spend in the factories.

    I have made multiple trips to Asian countries, visiting many factories. And have never seen any of the extreme opinions you have. They are far from shithole countries you fantasise them to be.

    Are there isolated abuses taking place. Probably, just like there is in the USA.
     
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    When I hear of people paying $1800-$2400 month rent, I wonder if they would consider purchasing a home. There must be a creative way to get in one even if they had to pay a higher interest rate.
    Investment in real estate is a decent long term investment.
     
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    People often have major setbacks in life....lose jobs, houses burn down, divorce, automobile repairs, medical expenses out of pocket, crops fail, debt...and dependents often before they are financially independent..the have nots can never catch up to the current cost of living without pretty major life changes...there are millions of folks starting over and struggling..it's not as if everyone can just finance a home these days...I helped my son get that started and he has a good job. Without our help he'd probably still be paying rent.
     
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    Besides lowest prices, Walmart features human oddities and entertainment value.
     
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    We did the same thing for our son. It's our job as parents. Besides that, why risk losing his inheritance to the State? We want our son to exceed. He has gone through a lot and as his parents we are the safety net.
     
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    It's no picnic in Jersey. Our taxes are in the stratosphere. We have a lot of in State food products which are affordable and supported by locals too.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Just wanted to call out another offensive, insulting, ridiculously defamatory and completely untrue segment of that lovely diatribe. Sad to see such hatred spewed toward the child care industry.
     
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    Good points...I myself had to rebuild many years back from a divorce. Instead of going out buying new stuff on credit cards and time I saved enough for an FHA loan that required less down 3% at the time.
    Within a couple years I refi to get away from the mortgage insurance. If someone fas faithfully paid $1700 math rent on a lease you'd think some mortgage company would be able to creative enough. I know income/debt ratio is important so I think many of these people paying that kind of rent have also finance a car, boat, credit cards etc. so its the debt that traps them.
     
  18. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    He's just upping the shtick, that's all. It is becoming obvious to more people here that he's just a character saying things to try to agitate people, so instead of just being a real person, he's doubling down on his act. Ignore it, it'll eventually go away.
     
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    My nephew-in-law had a business in China manufacturing high end stuff with a high level of quality. They never used slave labor.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    When I was in college I bought a Bullova watch with a tuning fork for $100. Paid for it with my VISA. Paid a lot of interest on that VISA for the next year or so. That's the first and last time I ever took out a loan on anything except for my first house and three automobiles. I thought this is stupid paying out money that should be in my pocket.
     
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