Things other fans don't know about your team/players

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Apr 14 2007, 03:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><span style="font-family:Arial">First of all, you have no idea how many Raptor games I watched this season. I have seen Toronto play plenty of times, I watch alot of every team in the league. Second of all, Brevin Knight IS better than Jose Calderon. Tyronn Lue and Earl Boykins can be debated, although I can see why people would pick JC over both of them.</span><span style="font-family:Arial">Shooting 52% is impressive, but he only takes 6 shots per game. It's alot easier to hold down a high percentage when you're taking a low amount of attempts.</span><span style="font-family:Arial">You don't need to ramble on and state the obvious to me. I know all about Calderons game, It's not like I starting watching the NBA yesterday. I don't make comments about a player unless I have seen him play enough times to make an accurate judgment.</span></div>Brevin Knight is not better than Jose Calderon. For christ sakes, back it up then... I'd say they have equal court vision, but Calderon is just the better scorer by far. Brevin is a shooting liability, and just a bad scorer in general. He has quickness, but he can't score like Calderon can.That's a horrible argument. Why are you trying to downplay Calderon's fg% this year? Believe it or not, but it was 42 percent a year ago...He's just improved his quickness and shooting this year. You can't say it's because of only 6 shots a game. He's taken over 400 this year...His fg% is high for a reason.uh huh...im sure that's why you think Tyronn Lue, Earl Boykins and Brevin Knight are better than Jose Calderon [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 14 2007, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brevin Knight is not better than Jose Calderon. For christ sakes, back it up then... I'd say they have equal court vision, but Calderon is just the better scorer by far. Brevin is a shooting liability, and just a bad scorer in general. He has quickness, but he can't score like Calderon can.That's a horrible argument. Why are you trying to downplay Calderon's fg% this year? Believe it or not, but it was 42 percent a year ago...He's just improved his quickness and shooting this year. You can't say it's because of only 6 shots a game. He's taken over 400 this year...His fg% is high for a reason.uh huh...im sure that's why you think Tyronn Lue, Earl Boykins and Brevin Knight are better than Jose Calderon [​IMG]</div>Sorry, kinda random, but I'd do anything to get Jose Calderon. I love the guy.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 14 2007, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's a horrible argument. Why are you trying to downplay Calderon's fg% this year? Believe it or not, but it was 42 percent a year ago...He's just improved his quickness and shooting this year. You can't say it's because of only 6 shots a game. He's taken over 400 this year...His fg% is high for a reason.</div>From what I've seen Calderon tends to never force a shot up which shows in the stats. (High FG %/Low FGA) 400 in one year isn't that much btw. I do agree he's improved his quickness and shooting but just becuase he's shooting 52% doesn't mean he's a great shooter.
     
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    Miami has the best road attendance in the NBA,
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dmoney @ Apr 14 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Miami has the best road attendance in the NBA,</div>I remember hearing something about the Lakers having that. I'm not sure though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Apr 13 2007, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh Yeah? When TJ Ford came over to Toronto, they both bet eachother that eithier could grow a goatee faster, since then none of them have shaved their chin hair, and Bosh still has peach fuzz on moustache. He also cant grow any facial hair on his sides.As for Calderon, I think he ranks up their as an exceptional playmaker. Hes not a scorer. But ran the offense EXTREMELY well with TJ Ford out of the lineup.</div>[​IMG]That looks like facial hair to me...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GArenas @ Apr 15 2007, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From what I've seen Calderon tends to never force a shot up which shows in the stats. (High FG %/Low FGA) 400 in one year isn't that much btw. I do agree he's improved his quickness and shooting but just becuase he's shooting 52% doesn't mean he's a great shooter.</div>I never said he was a great shooter, did I? I said he was great at getting to the rim, and he is. If you watch Raptor games, you'd see him drive to the rim 1-2 times a game almost...He is a solid mid range shooter, but he doesn't have much 3 ball range, although that is alot better than what it was a year ago..He just takes good shots, and sticks them. That doesn't neccisarily make him a great shooter, but an effective one.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I said he was great at getting to the rim, and he is. If you watch Raptor games, you'd see him drive to the rim 1-2 times a game almost</div>What? Great at getting the rim, drives to the rim 1-2 a game "almost." [​IMG]
     
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    It's actually more than that. It's like 2-3....and that is pretty good. How many backup points get 2-3 layups a game?
     
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    Leon Powe-an amazing story that nobody knows about. Grew up in the streets of Oakland, borderline homeless for most of his life, went on to be a Pac-10 legend and could potentially be a great role player in this league.Gerald Green-Has 4 fingers one of his hand.Ryan Gomes-Turned down leaving school his sophomore year, where he could have most likely been a lottery pick, to get his degree from Providence College. My sister went to PC and Gomes was in one of her classes, she said he never skipped that class once, and was alaways contributing, and was very intelligent. You don't see too many players staying all 4 years, not only staying, but wanting to stay and get their degree. I think it's one of the most commendable acts with young college players.Rajon Rondo-Is an absolute monsterBrian Scalabrine-He wears a bra when he plays
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 14 2007, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brevin Knight is not better than Jose Calderon. For christ sakes, back it up then... I'd say they have equal court vision, but Calderon is just the better scorer by far. Brevin is a shooting liability, and just a bad scorer in general. He has quickness, but he can't score like Calderon can.That's a horrible argument. Why are you trying to downplay Calderon's fg% this year? Believe it or not, but it was 42 percent a year ago...He's just improved his quickness and shooting this year. You can't say it's because of only 6 shots a game. He's taken over 400 this year...His fg% is high for a reason.</div>Brevin Knight is better than Jose Calderon. If you want to look at it another way... what can Calderon do better than Knight except score? Knight is just as quick, he's definitely a better defender, he IS the better playmaker with better court vision, he's the better decision maker, he is a leader, and I also think you are downplaying his ability to score. He's not a "good" scorer, but he uses his quickness to get into the paint.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Apr 13 2007, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Gerald Green hasn't lived up to what he can be doing and makes A LOT of mental mistakes on the court..it isn't all about his dunksI love the kid..just saying..cause a lot of people who don't watch games on the regular and look at the box score usually think he's already a stud when he has a lot to work onAlso what other Celtics fans have mentioned...I just wanted to name one of the cons while the others mentioned the pros</div>To tell you the truth, Gerald has progressed a lot faster than anybody expected. Yes, he still has a long way to go, but he is developing at a faster pace than anticipated by Doc, Danny, Wyc, and the fans.Also, why would you even say "it's not all about dunking?" He knows that, he works very hard, and besides.. the kid is a very good shooter. I don't know why you said that. You're actually making Gerald sound worse than he actually is, like he does nothing well besides dunk the ball.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 15 2007, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Brevin Knight is better than Jose Calderon. If you want to look at it another way... what can Calderon do better than Knight except score? Knight is just as quick, he's definitely a better defender, he IS the better playmaker with better court vision, he's the better decision maker, he is a leader, and I also think you are downplaying his ability to score. He's not a "good" scorer, but he uses his quickness to get into the paint.To tell you the truth, Gerald has progressed a lot faster than anybody expected. Yes, he still has a long way to go, but he is developing at a faster pace than anticipated by Doc, Danny, Wyc, and the fans.Also, why would you even say "it's not all about dunking?" He knows that, he works very hard, and besides.. the kid is a very good shooter. I don't know why you said that. You're actually making Gerald sound worse than he actually is, like he does nothing well besides dunk the ball.</div>I disagree with you on that. They are both great playmakers for backup PG's, but I think they are equal. Calderon is also realyl good at making plays.. Brevin actually plays about 8 more minutes than Jose, and averages 1.3 more apg..If you add those 8 minutes onto Jose's playing time, he'd average atleast Brevin's total, if not higher. You're saying he's not a good scorer? You're wrong....He has great quickness, and like I said, he has a good mid range jumper now too. He averages 9 in 21 minutes, and the guy is so unselfish too.Better leader? Brevin is a career journeyman. Jose always is vocal to the other guys when he is on the court, he gets the crowd pumped up and excited, and he has been a key part to this teams' success.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 15 2007, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree with you on that. They are both great playmakers for backup PG's, but I think they are equal. Calderon is also realyl good at making plays.. Brevin actually plays about 8 more minutes than Jose, and averages 1.3 more apg..If you add those 8 minutes onto Jose's playing time, he'd average atleast Brevin's total, if not higher. You're saying he's not a good scorer? You're wrong....He has great quickness, and like I said, he has a good mid range jumper now too. He averages 9 in 21 minutes, and the guy is so unselfish too.Better leader? Brevin is a career journeyman. Jose always is vocal to the other guys when he is on the court, he gets the crowd pumped up and excited, and he has been a key part to this teams' success.</div>First off, when did I ever say anything about Calderon not being a good scorer? I didn't say a thing about that, you just randomly brought that up.And screw your 0.1 or f*cking 0.2 assists difference. Brevin Knight is the better playmaker, watch him play. Calderon is a good player and playmaker, but he's not the floor general or distributor that Brevin Knight is.And Brevin is a leader, I don't care if he has played for 1 team or 12 teams. He's a good leader, he is a floor general, he runs the offense nicely, and he is a mini-teacher on the floor.
     
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    1. We call Jarvis Hayes, Arvis Hayes because he has no J.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Apr 15 2007, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Also, why would you even say "it's not all about dunking?" He knows that, he works very hard, and besides.. the kid is a very good shooter. I don't know why you said that. You're actually making Gerald sound worse than he actually is, like he does nothing well besides dunk the ball.</div>Because some people just think he's a star because he can dunk when there's other parts to his game he's good at and also needs to work hard at. He has a good J but he needs to learn to be more confident and take shots when he's open (tonight was a prime example) and he needs to take "his" shot..he's incredible shooting behind screens. He just needs that confidence. I do agree that he's progressed faster then most people expected him to though..nearly doubling his production from last year. Just saying that some people think he's already a stud when he has a lot to work on
     
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    The last time Reggie Evans made a good offensive play was on his AAU team.
     
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    The Warriors are an eight man team. Example today:Warriors up 43 points with 10 minutes left, put their backups in, and end up winning by only thirteen. That's a 30 point swing in ten minutes.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Apr 15 2007, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree with you on that. They are both great playmakers for backup PG's, but I think they are equal. Calderon is also realyl good at making plays.. Brevin actually plays about 8 more minutes than Jose, and averages 1.3 more apg..If you add those 8 minutes onto Jose's playing time, he'd average atleast Brevin's total, if not higher.</div>You also have to take into account that most of the time when Calderon is in the game, TJ Ford is not in the game. Meanwhile, most of the time that Knight is in the game, Felton is in the game at the exact same time. They play the both of them together alot, which is going to take away from their assists numbers. Just look at how much more assists per game Felton was averaging when Knight was away, compared to when he was there. That should be proof enough to see how many assists theese two take from each other. That should also cancel out the 8 minutes more per game that Knight plays compared to Calderon. That is also why assist numbers can be scewed, and should not always be used to say who the better playmaker is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ming637 @ Apr 15 2007, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. We call Jarvis Hayes, Arvis Hayes because he has no J.</div> [​IMG] [​IMG] Good one
     

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