Mags, it seems to come down to that you're fine with killing the mother if it means saving the baby. You either want government to make the decision or you feel that you should make it. I believe that in those very rare cases that it's the mother that should be allowed to make that decision. She is free to use science, religious beliefs or family to make but it should be hers to make. You keep saying that there are no medical instances where the mother can't have a c-section and the baby be saved. And I'm telling you my friend that is not true. There are medical reasons that a women can't have a c-section and the pregnancy must be terminated for the health of the woman. It's rare but there are cases.