Notice This is the worst Blazer team I have seen in my lifetime.

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  1. wizenheimer

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    of course, "lifetime" for me stretches back to 1952

    and, there is always the inevitable clash of expectations vs results
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You guys keep going back to record and I'm not talking about record. I would rather have a team with a shit record and a bright future than this steaming pile of treadmill crap.
     
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    What Nate seems to mean is that this is the Blazers team that disappoints him the most.

    He's a former internet journalist, so he had to give his thread a Buzzfeed title. :devilwink:
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There are many ways to define "worst."

    This is definitely the worst defensive Blazer team of my lifetime. It's also the worst passing. Worst coached?
     
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    I've been saying the Blazers are stuck on a treadmill since 2015; since Olshey forced the franchise into building around Dame AND CJ

    you can debate dozens of different decisions over the last 9 years on their individual merits, or demerits. But for me the ultimate test of progress is how the team finishes in the playoffs, not how they enter. And those results have been:

    1-4
    1-4
    1-4
    0-4
    0-4
    0-4
    1-4

    4-28....call it a treadmill; call it purgatory; call it mediocrity. Those would all be accurate. But you can't call it progress, and Dame was 23 when those playoff appearances started; he's 30 now
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    And yet.... Neil and Terry still have jobs. It's astounding.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You must be young. They were unbelievably worse during some of the Jail Blazer era. I went to games where only 30% of the fans showed up. I have primo seats and I couldn't give them away. Today, the Rose Garden is packed. Quite a difference if you'd care to notice.
     
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    Did those teams have a brighter future than this one? What was the bright future of the 2005-06 team? Getting Brandon Roy? Brandon Roy never won a playoff series.
     
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    I've always found this logic totally bizarre. This list would look better if they lost to the Clippers and Thunder (or Nuggets) 3-4 as opposed to winning the series.

    4-2
    4-1
    4-3

    If that's all I listed, and compared it to the rest of the series' we won this century, it wouldn't tell the entire story. The opposite is also the case.
     
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    So you’d rather us lose in the first round 3-4 than lose in the Finals 1-4. Got it.
     
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    I was in the arena covering the team during those years. I was there. I had to be there.
     
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    yeah...if you ignore the narrower context of the discussion I was participating in

    the un-bizarre context, just for you, is a 20-36 playoff record under Stotts. A .357 winning percentage. For his career, his playoff mark is 21-40, a .344 winning percentage. Yeah, that looks so much better, than simply pointing out how Stotts teams always end the playoffs with a whimper

    see if you can find any other coach who has been granted a 9 year tenure with one team with a .357 playoff mark and no wins in the conference finals. And I know you're aware I blame Olshey for that more than Stotts, but 9 years is about 3 years too long for the both of them. Actually, about 5 years too long for Olshey
     
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    apparently, you're so eager for an argument you're arguing with yourself

    I'll respond though: I'd rather Portland wins it all. But if/when they do lose, I'd really like for them to not appear so hopelessly outclassed as they have for 7 straight playoffs.
     
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    I'm fine with losing if it feels like we gained something from the series and will build towards something next year. That's not the case with this current foundation. Dame/CJ/Stotts isn't building.
     
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    Come's right down to it, its on the owner's/Vulcans. We are a satellite profit center for Corporate up North.
     
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    Preach
     
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    Everybody needs to relax. It’s going to get blown up this summer. What is everybody so anxious about? It’s clear Stotts done after this season, Nurk and Cj will probably get traded.

    Let’s all relax and enjoy the rebuild coming up.
     
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    Man, you are going to be one disappointed fan 6 months from now.
     
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    Why?
     
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    Because it's extremely unlikely the team gets blown up. Olshey clearly prefers stability--he'd have to be blown away to consider trading away McCollum and Nurkic, two players he probably believes in--and if he's been behind Stotts this long, he's not going to take a season where the team overcame injury to grab a decent seed as grounds for removal.

    I'm not saying he should or shouldn't blow it up, but absolutely nothing points to him doing so. You're projecting your own desires onto what you think is 100% certain to happen.
     

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