Notice This is the worst Blazer team I have seen in my lifetime.

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  1. blazerkor

    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    @Natebishop3 and @Chris Craig I just expect so much more from both of you. I don't understand why you guys don't realize that this is the absolute earliest in a season you can be. So you guys should just admit that this is an absolutely emotional reaction because I know that both of you understand that the preseason and first game of the season have never been accurate and consistent bellwethers of where a team will end up at the season's end (with or without trades). I realize you guys will point to previous seasons as proof but in the same post you might also mention that you have some omniscient way to know how DJJ and RoCo will or won't change the result of past outcomes. It's not your negativity that is so out of whack it's your certainty that your negativity isn't clouding your outlook and prognostications.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    That's completely fair sir and if many in here including the OP would just admit that this is just an emotional response then I wouldn't have a argumentative problem with any of it. For the record my use of words is just for fun as is the rest of this stuff... I'm only arguing points about sports it's not that big of a deal.
     
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  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    There is no "goal line," unless you want to make the goal line "the worst blazer team I have seen in my life."

    I presented the entire thing as a matter of opinion. I gave no criteria. I didn't talk about wins or losses. I didn't talk about stats. I said this is the worst Blazer team I have ever seen. How do you disprove an opinion based on eyesight?
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Regardless of why, he looks like shit. I don't care why, he shouldn't be on the floor if he isn't ready. Our team is playing so badly right now that we can't work out Hood's kinks. I explored this weeks ago when I said that he should be playing limited minutes while he works himself back into shape. We were proven correct because he looks lost and unconfident. I didn't say that wasn't to be expected, but regardless, he's playing badly and our second unit looks like crap. I also said that he's being setup to fail because of how bad the ball movement is on that second unit.
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough. Just know if the first post would have been a little clearer as to what you meant by "the worst team I have seen in my life" my responses would have been different. I still might have had an opinion or two about it but there wouldn't be any way to fully disagree with you because like you said it's a matter of opinion. For what any of that is worth... it is just my one opinion after all.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    After watching the NBA for a very large chunk of my 66 years, I’m not sure it rally matters how good we are. It seems to me that this year is just as preordained (and deserving of an asterisk) as last season. The championship is the Laker’s to lose. The fans can’t attend games, the season is shorter and revenues are down. The only way to keep fans coming back is for the league to do whatever is necessary to keep the Lakers front and center. It doesn’t hurt that LeBron seems to think it is his due.....and that he is bigger than the game (with league acquiescence). And let’s don’t forget Kobe, Kobe, Kobe. Yeah, I know it’s an extremely cynical and jaded take, but I think it’s pretty much a done deal.......and all the arguing about how good or bad the Blazers are is irrelevant. A lifetime of living in a “small market” has beaten the equal opportunity ideal right outta me.......
     
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    There is no way to know what this team will be like in 3 months.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    If we can't vent our frustrations on here, where can we?

    And trust me, regardless of how I frame my post, there's always going to be homers on here who will show up to white knight the team. Death, taxes, and sunshine pumping. Without fail.
     
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    I don't know what Stotts thinks of practices as opposed to games but a lot of coaches think that you can sacrifice a little quality now to get guys game time to get them back to where you get a lot of quality from them in a lot of later games. Regardless of that your point about the guys that Stotts put Hoodie in with was right on... if you're trying to get Hoodie some run why put him out there with a bunch of ball hogging defensive liabilities? That makes no sense and a lot of things Stotts does make me scratch my head.
     
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    This is some conspiratorial bullshit. I don't know how many times I'll have to post this in here but there isn't large enough revenue sharing among the owners that these billionaires wouldn't spend the money it took to prove the fixing of games or seasons if it were happening and have league management thrown out of the league and into jail.

    Also there are too many ambitious journalists out there that would doggedly pursue any actual hint of this shit and it would end up headlining every big website, paper and magazine... again resulting in people losing million dollar salaries and ending up in jail. This shit doesn't happen at this high and visible of a level in the information age... it hasn't even possibly happened in around half a century. Watergate changed a lot of things and people often don't realize that. But carry on with your nonsensical musings.
     
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    It's toally fair to vent in my opinion, but with such extreme hyperbole, you should expect a few people to question it. I would imagine a similar reaction to the "This is the best Blazer team in my lifetime" thread as well.

    While it's way too early to judge (this should be a key point), I have a feeling this team is highly unlikely to go down anywhere close to the worst team in history. We've seen far worse teams in the past 2 decades. We've had some self-interested, poorly coached, and difficult to root for teams that you may have forgot about.
     
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    Wow! Way to make @Natebishop3 OP look like absolute level headed genius. If someone posted a "This is the best Blazer team in my lifetime" thread after the steaming pile of shit a lot of us saw last night the reaction would and should not be similar to the reactions in this thread. The "best Blazer team" poster theoretically should be berated as the worst poster in the history of this forum or someone with a bad sense of humor.
     
  13. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    there’s a difference between questioning it and outright dismissing it with the same homer outlook from the same people who call everyone CJ haters.
     
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    My reaction last night saying this team was the worst team I ever seen or worse than the post jail Blazer era team was emotional and sarcastic. I was pissed at a lackluster....no not even a lackluster effort by this team.

    Today in my posts I have gotten passed the emotion and have expressed opinions (shared by others) backed up by fact. The Blazers are playing terrible. There are several issues including lineups, effort, schemes, etc. And, it is all disconcerting.

    I realize the second Kings game and the two Denver games were preseason. Stotts fucked up not using those games seriously. You ready your team and have them play like they would in the season like Malone did, or you can fuck around and play with a its just preseason mindset. The difference is a winning mentality vs a losing mentality.

    Now, the plays have stumbled into the season. Will, they get it figured out...eventually yes. But, the issues remain evident and that is a fact, nothing emotional about it.

    And, I am not talking about where they will end up. I am talking about where they are now and what can be done about it.
     
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    Totally agree... Questioning things is legit. I think dismissing an assessment of this being the worst Blazer team ever after 4 preseason and 1 regular season game is also legit. Lets not forget the people planning a parade after Game 1 of this preseason, they were also very premature.
     
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    Agreed... long term takes after one regular season outcome would be worthy of that type of reaction. If the Blazers beat Houston by 20 on Saturday, I would hope nobody takes the opposite stance.
     
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    I'll tell you something a little funny. My reactions in this thread were a result of the title taking away a lot of the time I would have spent being pissed over that performance last night and put me right into an argumentative mode that made me defend something that I was moments before extremely disappointed by. I think that might explain a lot of what's gone on in this thread. Anyway you look at it, it has made for a very lively and entertaining thread.
     
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    If we beat the dysfunctional Rockets....or the dysfunctional Rockets without Harden?

    No
     
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    calvin natt Confeve

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    No human could watch that game and say anything other than it was a steaming pile of dogshit. That being said, it leaves people seemingly in three groups:

    1- Blow it up I’ve seen enough
    2- They will be fine it’ll take time
    3- I have no clue what’s happening or will happen

    truthfully everyone should technically be #3. I don’t have a problem with any of the three. I just have a hard time with making a decision after one real game with some new players, some off major injuries, Covid, and so on.
     
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    One thing I noticed with number 4...the offensive scheme for our starting lineup is RoCO and DJJ are not getting enough touches.

    Dame gets doubled he either throws to Nurkic or CJ. If he throws to CJ, CJ usually takes the shot. If Dame throws it to Nurkic, Nurkic, either throws it back to Dame, who throws it back to CJ after getting doubled again, or Nurkic through back to CJ. Either way CJ gets the ball, and CJ shoots it. We need to get RoCo and DJJ involved more if we are staying with that lineup.
     

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