ok how about I think they do 7 or more wins and you say 6 or less wins. Since you think 6-5 or 5-6 and I believe either 9-3 or 8-4. 6-5 or 5-6 probably won't get them a Bowl game any way or the ACC Title.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>ok how about I think they do 7 or more wins and you say 6 or less wins. Since you think 6-5 or 5-6 and I believe either 9-3 or 8-4. 6-5 or 5-6 probably won't get them a Bowl game any way or the ACC Title.</div> I figured they would end up 7-5. So lets bet on losses
6-5 record is what you think for the regular season and that is not good enough to get them to the ACC Title or a Bowl Game would be anyone's guess for them with that record. So 7-5 probably won't happen. I like the wins idea since that is what we started talking about. How many wins would they get. I'll go 7 or above and you'll go 6 or less. Since is that is what you believe. You can't flip flop to 7 now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>6-5 record is what you think for the regular season and that is not good enough to get them to the ACC Title or a Bowl Game would be anyone's guess for them with that record. So 7-5 probably won't happen. I like the wins idea since that is what we started talking about. How many wins would they get. I'll go 7 or above and you'll go 6 or less. Since is that is what you believe. You can't flip flop to 7 now.</div> No i think 7-4 for regular season and a bowl loss. There is no flip flop
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>you fliped flop. Before you said 6-5 and maybe 5-6. Now your saying 7-4.</div> I am willing to bet they lose 5 games. That is my only offer. It is not a finite amount of games, so I am unwilling to bet on wins. Take it or Leave it.
ok I'll take 4 or less. You get 5 or more. How long do we have to keep the signature. a year. half of year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>ok I'll take 4 or less. You get 5 or more. How long do we have to keep the signature. a year. half of year.</div> I end all my bets on NFL draft day as a rule. Then I start making more.
ok so on draft day we can put are sigs back to normal. or should I say you can put yours back to normal. LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>ok so on draft day we can put are sigs back to normal. or should I say you can put yours back to normal. LOL</div> You could say that, but you would be wrong
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheBeef)</div><div class='quotemain'>Vince Young is not a good QB....he cant throw for crap....hes just an athlete....he will never get a chance in the pros at the postion....Lee has an arm 50x better than Vince Young....I saw Lee last year against 3A High School teams, I cant imagine that he improved so much in one year that hes going to go from losing to Cocoa High and Rockledge High to beating UM, UVA, and VT....if a team starts a true frosh at QB in the ACC, they will struggle....</div> Xaiver Lee isn't a true frosh though. He had a redshirt and put on 20 pounds as well. I don't think he is going to flat out dominate but I think he can manage the team. Booker and Washington are one of the nations best combo in the backfield.
Freshman QBs always have a histroy of struggling. The good thing about going through a bad next season, is that when he get exprience he will be a top prospect. His Senior Season he will domintate because of all that experience
agreed but watching him in the all american game my jaw just was dropped open the whole time. That was 2 years ago and now he has improved enough.
I think as the season goes on he will get a lot better. He will probably struggle and loose to Miami but their is no reason why FSU can't get to the ACC Title game.
yea NC State is my second favorite team, if they can fix that offense they will dominate the ACC Atlantic
