This Team Has Clearly Overachieved - Who Deserves The Credit?

Im happy for LZ and everyone else that shares that sentiment, just not my sentiment

 

OK, TETO.

 

Brandon Roy. If your team has a superstar, you always stand a chance of winning in the NBA. Even in a game like last night where he wasn't that much of a scorer, he was such a massive distraction that a lot of other players got some easy looks. When guys get easier looks, they tend to "overachieve."

I'd put Andre Miller in second place. I've always respected his game, but over the last few months he's really become one of my favorite PG's in the league. He's nowhere close to the best, but there's just something about the way he plays. He kept this team alive when Roy went down.

I always feel this team stands a good chance of winning just seeing Roy and Miller in the starting lineup.

 

Who would get the blame if it wasn't working? That person should get the credit...

 

I understand what your are doing here, but in my mind teams don't over-achieved. They play up to their ability or not. This team has achieved what they have have earned.

 

No single individual deserves the credit. Everybody who fought through those tough times deserves a piece of the pie. It would be very hard for anybody here to not look back at the games, and not see that every player/coach/GM stepped up during different games/times of the season.

 

A combo of all. Pritchard gets the bulk of credit though. As good as the players and McMillan have been, it was Pritch's blueprint, fortitude, and actions that put people in place to succeed.

 

"Overachieved".

As compared to what - preseason expectations?

 

I agree. I'm not even sure what over-achieve means. Either you achieve or you don't.

This team was a 4 seed last year, had a bunch of injuries and are now an 8th seed with a chance at 7th, and still a very good chance at a first round exit.

Granted they have surprised me as I thought the season was down the tubes early, but they really actually have just kept the boat afloat as we all cross our fingers that this thing takes off again next season with everyone back.

 

QFT

 

The whole fact that the Blazers are only 4 games in the loss column behind 2nd place in the west speaks for itself. Think about that. All the shit that went on this year, and here we are. 4 games out of 2nd place. Do you think Greg is worth 4 games if healthy? How about Joel? How about Batum?

There have been a lot of games that have been ugly, and there have been a lot of games where the team looked beat down. But in the overall scheme of the NBA environment and the achievements of the year, they have done pretty damn good.

It's just hard to watch, when you expected to watch something...better!

 

I think "compared to the day Joel went down" is probably a good place to start. It was one thing when Greg went down, but to have Joel drop too basically made any expectations of the playoffs moot in a lot of people's minds.

Maybe not yours, and I'm sure you'll tell us so at length and correct us on our sliding expectations. But given that I personally thought the season was lost in December, I have to say that what the team has achieved is way over my expectations. Thus, they overachieved in my book.

I give Nate and KP a ton of credit: Nate for being a fantastic motivator, and KP for bringing in the best group of vets and 2nd round draft picks I've every seen join a team. While neither's in the rotation anymore, Dante and Jeff each won us a game or two. I doubted Andre early, but have been proven wrong. Juwan proved damn near everyone wrong. And Camby was straight up smart.

Hell, everyone on the team deserves credit. Even Outlaw, who turned into Camby instead of a pumpkin.

 

And, most importantly of all, he did it without giving up "the future". We got all 3 of those players and all we lost was Blake and Outlaw (who everyone and their brother had in every trade scenario). KP did a great job of saving this season and has us in a spot to re-sign both Camby and Miller on the cheap along with getting Oden back next season and who knows what this team can do. KP is not going anywhere. People need to put that behind them. Way too many people reading into things that were not there all week. Any of you watch South Park on wednesday? Thats exactly what was happening here.

 

I'm actually pretty optimistic both guys want to retire here. They genuinely seem to be having a fun time out there. Man, if we can get Oden and Przybilla back AND Camby and Miller....fuck, that could be one fantastic team.

Even if Camby doesn't return, it's going to be fun watching a fully comfortable Miller start next year. You take out the massive injuries and the PG starting drama, and it could be a truly memorable season.

 

I have to admit that Miller has performed better than I expected. Of course some of that might be because of just how bad our PG play was previously. I think KP should get Executive of the Year and Nate should win Coach of the Year. They've both done outstanding jobs. The trade for Camby was absolutely HUGE! I still can't believe we made that deal. It gives me hope that we can actually win a playoff series without HCA!

 

So who was it that brought in #'s 1, 2, & 4?

Weren't those three guys added to the existing core?

Does this mean that KP doesn't blow, but you do?

So, have you now figured out that KP made the Camby trade to save the season?

Go Blazers

 

Your #2 above tells me that you may have FINALLY found a clue...but I'm sure you'll prove me wrong with your next post.

Personally, I think KP DID upgrade the team, and he gets a lot of the credit for the team making the playoff this year. I KP.

Go Blazers

 

John Canzano a modern day JC, can we crucify him and get the ball rolling...I wanna see if he will rise again. I mean Easter is right around the corner.

 

I hear you. My point was that expectations have been on a roller-coaster for months now. It is hard to talk about over or under achieving, when none of us have really known what the heck to expect!

 

has the answer basically been anyone but nate?