Politics This video about sums it up on why I am voting for Trump

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  1. bulls_with_booz

    bulls_with_booz We're Selfish

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    Well, yeah. The Republican tax plan consists of cuts, usually.

    Spending cuts is a different issue. Trump seems to like big military, so I doubt a cut will be made there.

    Personally, my favorite tax plan presented thus far has been from Rand Paul.

    https://www.randpaul.com/issue/taxes
     
    bulls_with_booz, Sep 29, 2015
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    bulls_with_booz We're Selfish

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    This too. If Trump actually brings industry back to the U.S, people will be making money they can actually spend because they aren't taxed into the grave.
     
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    I should have added, the money that will not need to be paid out by the government because people will be making their own way.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    you are aware that trickle down economics (which is basically what you're suggesting will happen) has not, never has and never will work, right?
     
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    Republicans have been claiming for years that if you give rich people big tax breaks they'll create more jobs. It has been tried, and it hasn't worked. But it has been good for rich people.

    Separately, more on Bernie's demographic... he's favored more by men than women, whites than non-whites, college-educated than non, and (as mentioned) by >$50k vs. <$50k. Just information, not making a point here.

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    People need to feel good again, feel they have a bright future. The last yacht design I sold was in 2006. I now have people looking at the MarAzul and use words like beautiful! Work of Art!
    Just yesterday, one fellow said, That is a fine piece of work. Great stuff, flatters my ego all fluffy.

    But no one is spending the money planning to built a yacht. I think they need leadership to inspire them with the can do feeling again.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Nailed it!
     
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    So, if we give rich people another tax break, one of them might hire you to design a yacht? Ok, that's one new job, I guess. How many million jobs do you suppose there are for yacht designers?

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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    He also taxes the median middle class only 10%. Even Obama doesn't give them that break.
     
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    bulls_with_booz We're Selfish

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    >right wing tax plan
    >automatically trickle down ecomomics

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    Taxing the rich so much they leave isn't the answer either. Trump's plan at the least is sensible, benefits both sides.
     
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    Well if I get orders for three, I will put about 40 people to work building them. If I sell a plan, some bodies will surely be needed some where to create the yacht.
     
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    That last bit ought to give you a clue about the lack of reality involved in Trump's plan.

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    bulls_with_booz We're Selfish

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    Lack of reality? There's nothing out of the world about what he's doing. Cutting taxes across the board.
     
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    The lack of reality is how to pay for government if you do that. It means either very severe spending cuts (which have not been detailed, and probably will not be detailed, and therefore probably will not happen because there will be no consensus/mandate on what to cut) or running much larger deficits - which Republicans claim they don't approve of.

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    when someone mentions that it will create jobs, that's exactly what they're referencing.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I like his plan but I doubt any flat tax proposal will ever fly. I've been for flat tax for a long time.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The last bit explains that the democrats really aren't for the middle class. They need a lot of tax for their big social programs. Gotta put the fuel in the government gas guzzler
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The DC Establishment has advertised budget cuts are impossible, but congress and Clinton were able to budget in the black for 2 years. There's a lot you can do with the right management
     
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    So, is Trump going to cut those social programs? If so which ones?

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    So candidates are promising to cut taxes and create jobs by bringing business back home...we've never heard this before, right?
     
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