<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Lefty @ Sep 30 2006, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Doctor's Advocate will be a pretty good album. Dre is on alot of the beats, that's always good news.I will probably buy this one.</div>Once again, both Game and Dre have said that Dre has had absolutely ZERO input on this album. No beats, and definitely no production.
why do people believe Game's a gangster?everytime I see him in a video trying to act hard I just laugh at him
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Sep 30 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why do people believe Game's a gangster?everytime I see him in a video trying to act hard I just laugh at him</div>Agreed. Seriously, if you're a gangster, do you think you're crew is going to leave you alone after you were on Change of Heart? Um, no! sh*t, that just isn't going to happen... Most artists out West keep sayin' he's a product of the industry, and I agree with them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Sep 30 2006, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Whoever said that Dre is on the new album doesn't know what they are talking about. Game came out and said it himself that Dre has NOTHING on this album... no production and NO Dre beats. And Geffen is a drop-off label... he didn't leave Aftermath, he got kicked off Aftermath after they got tired of him begging them for his own label (or so I heard). And then he goes and uses Lloyd Banks' little logo as the BWS logo... the dude is just obsessed with G-Unit.I mean, come on, his own brother says he isn't a gangster (yes, I know they are feuding right now, but still). All rappers say they do sh*t and they don't. The dude was on Change of Heart... and tattooed a butterfly on his face, then changed it to "LA" when everybody started making fun of him.And yes, he does change his mind every f*cking minute. Just yesterday he was on Hot 97 in New York begging for 50 Cent to talk to him and end their beef.I like Game, I really do... but I think his music would be a lot better if he didn't drop names every five seconds in his songs and didn't ride Dre's dick all the time.Oh, and another thing... Game thinks he didn't build his career on beef... well, um, without his beef with 50 Cent, nobody would give a crap about the Game. Face it, it it wasn't for Dre, 50 and Eminem, Game would be nothing right now.And then there's that whole publicity stunt with Ras Kass right now...</div>I don't know who said that Dre was on the album, that's wrong like you said. First of all, the 'little logo' that Lloyd Banks had was copied from game. It was like a subliminal because instead of blackwallstreet it said black wall strippers....I wouldn't call being a man and trying to end the beef begging. He destroyed 50 there's nothing wrong with ending it on a good note. He drops names on his mixtapes barely any on his albums. He rides Dre's dick I'll give you that but he did make him what he is today. At least he shows some appreciation.Game actually would have a career without beef. His beef with 50 Cent came after the Documentary dropped and the documentary went 5 times platinum. And don'tsay the beef with Bleek and Budden made him what he is because that's bull. Neither of those beefs had hype, at least enough to make his album sell more.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I respect what you say. But most rappers display that "gangster or thug" image. You don't know what he really is and neither do I. The people that know him can say what they want. If you don't know the person, you DON'T KNOW THEM. For all we know all these rappers could be cops at the end of the day what they do on the mic and in videos can be real or it can be fake you don't know unless you've personally met the person so I won't argue saying Game's a gangster because I don't know if he's a gay and fake. All I do is appreciate his music.
THe guy is fake. His lyrics dont make sense he is just rhyming words that dont even make sense on a line.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Oct 1 2006, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know who said that Dre was on the album, that's wrong like you said. First of all, the 'little logo' that Lloyd Banks had was copied from game. It was like a subliminal because instead of blackwallstreet it said black wall strippers....I wouldn't call being a man and trying to end the beef begging. He destroyed 50 there's nothing wrong with ending it on a good note. He drops names on his mixtapes barely any on his albums. He rides Dre's dick I'll give you that but he did make him what he is today. At least he shows some appreciation.Game actually would have a career without beef. His beef with 50 Cent came after the Documentary dropped and the documentary went 5 times platinum. And don'tsay the beef with Bleek and Budden made him what he is because that's bull. Neither of those beefs had hype, at least enough to make his album sell more.Everyone is entitled to their opinion, so I respect what you say. But most rappers display that "gangster or thug" image. You don't know what he really is and neither do I. The people that know him can say what they want. If you don't know the person, you DON'T KNOW THEM. For all we know all these rappers could be cops at the end of the day what they do on the mic and in videos can be real or it can be fake you don't know unless you've personally met the person so I won't argue saying Game's a gangster because I don't know if he's a gay and fake. All I do is appreciate his music.</div>I hear what you're saying, but I don't think he would have a career without the beef with 50... would he have much buzz around him if he had just accepted getting kicked out of G-Unit? Probably not... he went after 50 afterwards, and that gave him the buzz. The Documentary was so successful not only because of Game's ability, but Dre and 50's influence on the record had a BIG part in it's success.Is he gangster? Who knows... a lot of rappers out there aren't what they say they are, and I just think Game is a product of the industry. Like you said, nobody truly knows what he's been through, etc., but from the sh*t I'm hearing coming out of the mouths of Cali's gangsters and sh*t, everything points to Game being a fake.I really don't care one way or the other because I'll listen to any music that I think is good, and Game's definitely is... but I just find it annoying and quite naive when there are blind fans that believe everything a certain person says is must be the truth, etc., and thankfully you aren't one of them. :winkglasses:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Oct 1 2006, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I hear what you're saying, but I don't think he would have a career without the beef with 50... would he have much buzz around him if he had just accepted getting kicked out of G-Unit? Probably not... he went after 50 afterwards, and that gave him the buzz. The Documentary was so successful not only because of Game's ability, but Dre and 50's influence on the record had a BIG part in it's success.Is he gangster? Who knows... a lot of rappers out there aren't what they say they are, and I just think Game is a product of the industry. Like you said, nobody truly knows what he's been through, etc., but from the sh*t I'm hearing coming out of the mouths of Cali's gangsters and sh*t, everything points to Game being a fake.I really don't care one way or the other because I'll listen to any music that I think is good, and Game's definitely is... but I just find it annoying and quite naive when there are blind fans that believe everything a certain person says is must be the truth, etc., and thankfully you aren't one of them. :winkglasses:</div>Oh no man, I can't stand that either. I'm a big fan of Game but I won't go as far as saying that I know the dude's a gangster because I honestly don't know. There are so many dick riders that will defend game like if they know the guy, that is just weird. He's my favorite rapper right now but I won't even take it that far. I think that he would still have some buzz without the beef with 50 but obviously not even compared to what he has now.According to many people he is a fake, he's not a blood, he's this he's that man whatever. At the end of the day he's an elite MC like his persona or not. I agree with what you said about him gaining sucess also because of Dre's and 50's help but you can't really use that against him because it is rare to see a rapper make it to the top without help. Even if you go back to 'Pac, Digital Underground did A LOT for his career, A LOT! So, if you're saying Game wouldn't be anything without Dre's help then you're right and many people wouldn't idolize and follow Tupac if it wasn't for Digital Underground. I guess that's why Game rides dre's dick so much...And Pinoy, if you're just going to say he's fake and not give any backup to your post why post at all? :shifty2:
I understand Dre did a lot for him, etc., and I agree that he should be thankful to Dre for the opportunity he gave him, but he just takes it too far in my opinion. I mean, Dre did the same for guys like Eminem and 50, but Game just rides Dre's dick a little too much, in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Oct 1 2006, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I understand Dre did a lot for him, etc., and I agree that he should be thankful to Dre for the opportunity he gave him, but he just takes it too far in my opinion. I mean, Dre did the same for guys like Eminem and 50, but Game just rides Dre's dick a little too much, in my opinion.</div>Agreed.
I like the Game because hes one of the few westcoasts artists out there, im from the westcoast and after Tupac and Eazy-e died, we have a few westcoast artists left (the dogg pound, snoop, too short, ice cube)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Lyrically hes nothing more then average and now hes starting beef with Ras Kass who is 10000000x better then him lyrically.</div>He actually punched Ras Kass and knocked him unconcious. Kass admitted it, But he also said he got jumped....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Oct 1 2006, 01:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>At the end of the day he's an elite MC like his persona or not.</div>Not quite average is more like it to be honest, his lyrical ability is average and part of what made The Documentary sell so much was the fact 50 was on it and the production was hot.
Game was never a stripper, I cant believe people believe that garbage.Look at the pic, Games body looks nothing like that at all. Also, Where are his tatoos at?Game had tatoos when he was 15-16 years old, And there gone for that pic. It was photoshopped.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Oct 1 2006, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He actually punched Ras Kass and knocked him unconcious. Kass admitted it, But he also said he got jumped....</div>I don't see what your trying to prove Don't know how that relates to the post I made.As for that stripper stuff, I can't believe anyone would actually believe that crap.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 1 2006, 03:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not quite average is more like it to be honest, his lyrical ability is average and part of what made The Documentary sell so much was the fact 50 was on it and the production was hot.</div>He's very underrated lyrically. I don't think he's average he's more than slightly above. You can't say he sold records because he had 50 and because of the beats, 50 was on two songs. If it was because of 50, people would save money and just buy the singles CD with hate it o love it and how we do.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DWade3 @ Oct 1 2006, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's very underrated lyrically. I don't think he's average he's more than slightly above. You can't say he sold records because he had 50 and because of the beats, 50 was on two songs. If it was because of 50, people would save money and just buy the singles CD with hate it o love it and how we do.</div>god just admit itnobody would even know who Game was if it wasn't for 50 Cent, G-Unit, Eminem and Dr. DreI hate aftermath, eminem and gunit and all them except for dr dre but please..just admit you're wrongnobody would know Game if he didn't diss 50 cent"And in 50 cent news..."was what Game got publicity off of
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Oct 1 2006, 03:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't see what your trying to prove Don't know how that relates to the post I made.As for that stripper stuff, I can't believe anyone would actually believe that crap.</div>LOL yeah, the stripper sh*t is funny, people are idiots.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Oct 1 2006, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>god just admit itnobody would even know who Game was if it wasn't for 50 Cent, G-Unit, Eminem and Dr. DreI hate aftermath, eminem and gunit and all them except for dr dre but please..just admit you're wrongnobody would know Game if he didn't diss 50 cent"And in 50 cent news..."was what Game got publicity off of</div>Admit what? How about you study your facts and see that he sold records before the beef seeing as his album the documentary dropped January 18, 2005 and the beef with 50 began during the beginning of last summer (2005). He's gotten buzz because of the beef, yes but that has NOTHING to do with his prior album sales.So you want me to admit that he sold 5 million copies just because 50 Cent did two songs on his album? Come on man..
um three of four songs actuallyand they werent just 'songs'they were 24 hour radio spins and mtv spins/promotionbacked with Dr. Dre, Eminem and 50 cent hype..who were three of the biggest mainstream successes at the time
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Oct 1 2006, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>um three of four songs actuallyand they werent just 'songs'they were 24 hour radio spins and mtv spins/promotionbacked with Dr. Dre, Eminem and 50 cent hype..who were three of the biggest mainstream successes at the time</div> So he sold 5 million because of that? Make up your mind. Did he sell because of beef?(which came months after the album dropped) Or because of promotion from your label? (which every artist is entitled to)Dr. Dre and 50 Cent helped of course they did, I'm not denying that but you make it seem as if he is garbage and that's the only reason he sold records. You don't sell 5 million because of the group of people around you. Yeah if it wasn't for Dre and 50 game might not be known, but if it wasn't for Eminem and Dre neither would 50. And if it wasn't for Dre Eminem wouldn't be what he is. It's all like a chain very few artists make it on their own so don't say he sold because of the help because even Tupac which is arguably the best ever had tons of help. (mainly from digital underground)
Actually Game is amazing lyrically..I don't know what you guys are talking about. 300 Bars is crazy. Just listen to it..And before The Documentary dropped he had the song 200 Bars(diss to Joe Buddens and Memphis Bleek) which is almost as good as 300 bars but just as lyrical. 200 Bars and 300 Bars and Runnin' are insane lyrically. Also,sadly, Game would never been as good as he is today without Dre. Game was just an average rapper before he met Dre. He turned him into one of the best out there. Now watch me get hit with a a ton of people dissagreeing with me. 300 Bars and Runnin' (most of it) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtbHx7Hexow