OT Three Hotels Approaching Foreclosure in the Heart of Portland Offer a Warning to City Leaders

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  1. SharpeScooterShooter

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    probably semantics, but homeless and drug problem.
    Most are hand in hand, but i think the drug problem is an issue needing to be tackled as well, possibly first, to solve the homeless problem, as well as getting people to think downtown is safe and fun again.
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Except downtown already has a ton of mostly-empty office buildings that are expected to become even emptier over the next couple years, meaning we could soon be seeing similar reports about commercial buildings. No reason to use these hotels for that same purpose.

    I agree that there aren't many who want to live downtown, but if the option is available to house those currently residing downtown in tents, I wouldn't be opposed.
     
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    no, we're in this mess because crime and homelessness has been allowed to run rampant in downtown Portland. Why would I go shopping or have dinner downtown if I have to worry about someone breaking my window or getting assaulted or harassed while enjoying a night on the town?

    Filling downtown Portland with persons with disposable income that can afford it will make it more attractive to actually keep nice and maintain. Here's a shocker, gentrified areas with a high average income are usually nicer and safer and more pleasant to be around. Its a higher standard of living.

    But you can't have rioters fuck shit up every weekend.
     
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    I believe it would be a subsidized nightly housing.
     
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    They didn't need near zero property taxes for 20 years as an incentive to build those apartment buildings.
     
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    So developers with low property taxes causes people to smash windows on businesses and cars? I don't see the connection here.
     
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    The riots happened downtown. The big tax-reduced residential developments are in the Pearl and inner SE Portland. Those developments were not hurt by the protests and riots.
     
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    Thanks for the correction. They are one in the same, IMO.

    You have to address them at the same time, with the same funding, in the same system, or you will not be successful with either.
     
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    And mental health. Alot of the homeless population are patients released from the psych hospitals onto the streets.
     
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    Yes, it definitely includes mental health as well.
     
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    I stopped going out downtown in Eugene to the blues jams or WOW hall concerts, etc because for years it was night of the living dead downtown...businesses were boarded up...couldn't go 2 ft without getting spare changed or bothered by street bums....it's cleaned up now but until Portland fixes that shit they'll lose the business of people like me. I left in 2001 for the country and back then thought it was getting ridiculous to drive downtown from Wilsonville...bad traffic setup ....Eugene has cleaned up the city a whole lot over the last few years.
     
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    Let’s not pretend that this is just a Portland problem.

    I’m in the LA area quite a bit throughout the year and you can easily make the case that it’s worse there than San Francisco for worst homeless problem on the west coast.

    LA is the third world right now
     
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    As is Seattle. We were there for my birthday weekend and after attempting to venture out for a walk, changed our minds. It's bad everywhere people.
     
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    Anyone been to downtown St Louis the last few years? Literal ghost town at night. Huge, beautiful, old buildings, empty, no lights on and broken windows. You could probably buy the building for close to nothing. Prime downtown location. Walk down the Main Street on a Friday night at 7 pm. ALONE for blocks. It was the weirdest feeling, like post apocalyptic out of a movie. No businesses other than the St Louis Cardinals and St Louis Blues. Hope Portland doesn’t get to that point.
     
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    Gotta get people living down there. That's how you get a vibrant night life.
     
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    Nothing will get better unless the city decides to clean up the homeless and protester/riot mess. If that doesn’t happen then nothing else they do will matter. It would just be lipstick on a smelly pile of shit. This has been obvious for some time but I guess the important people think those aren’t priorities for a large city. Bike paths are more important.
     
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    LA is shit. I won't deny that. I don't even go to most of the city anymore. Southbay/Beach cities and OC only because it's not all fucked up.

    However, isn't downtown Portland still all boarded up? Portland seems to ignore the anti-social behavior like riots and vandalism. How are you going to make an area nice when you let people smash shit up. Aint no tourists gonna want to be around that.


    LA ignores the homeless problem. They can literally set up anywhere and they are a huge problem of crime, drugs and garbage. LA mayor and city council are pieces of shit.

    LA for the most part tries to crack down on disruptive riots and all that shit that seems to plauge downtown portland. The DA office doesn't do shit though. Restorative justice BS.
     
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    I went there maybe 18 years ago. Is "THE Landing" area dead too? I remember that was really really fun for night life.

    I think there was a Banana Joe's there which used to be in Portland too.
     
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    I'll be there next weekend. Is pike market sketch? I need my Hom Bao fix
     
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    The protests are over. These buildings can be part of the solution to the homeless mess.
     

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