OT Three Hotels Approaching Foreclosure in the Heart of Portland Offer a Warning to City Leaders

Because spending $8k per person is better than spending $30k for homeless people, or $60k for prisoners...

 

I've done the research and posted the links for you several times. You clearly didn't read them.

 

They don't have the funding to not keep it going.

They are spending 3x more now, by cutting that funding.

Yes, maintaining your car costs money. But it's cheaper than not maintaining it.

Same principle.

 

because i know how flawed a sensus of the homeless is. Shit. A sensus of people with addresses isnt very accurate.
Ive told you before numbers can lie, you clearly refuse to acknowledge it.

 

Apples to oranges. Cars are not actively self destructive.

 

Yes they absolutely are. Do you not get oil changes?

 

Well, that's why you are so ignorant on the issues. You keep spewing bullshit and people are going to call you on it.

But thank you for posting links showing that spending and homelessness has exploded since housing first ended in SLC.

 

huh? Yes and my car has never once turned and tossed all the oil all over the ground and all over itself and all over everyone in its surroundings. My car doesn’t toss out my trash out the door. My car doesn't randomly vandalize things.

tou are just making shit up to argue now.

 

As you drive your car destroys the oil. If you didn't change it the bearings would seize and you'd have oil on the ground and all over the engine and its surroundings, and you'd have a car which no longer works.

So that $30 oil change saves you hundreds of dollars per month.

 

Huh? Sensus numbers have been proven to be inaccurate but i don't think you could keep this conversation from muddying up and getting personal. Lol. Where is your link showing census numbers are accurate vs claiming im spewing bullshit?


Heres some more links for you though. If you are actually interested in a discussion instead of making shit personal:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK218229/

https://psmag.com/.amp/social-justice/why-cant-we-count-the-homeless-population

https://www.nber.org/papers/w30163

 

Thats normal wear and tear that all humans go through. Like aging. Needing more health care as we get older. That is not actively degrading its surroundings.
Apples to oranges.

 

Breaking down the cost of homelessness:
Report states it's more expensive to keep someone homeless than to house them.


https://www.turnto23.com/news/homeless/breaking-down-the-cost-of-homelessness

 

Some cars need more oil changes than others.

 

Doesnt mean those cars are spitting oil on other cars, tossing out trash while driving down the road, etc.

Terrible analogy.

 

You're not but you love to lick them.

 

what does that have to do with inaccurate census??


changing the point again?

 

I work hard to maintain that claim. Don't sneak in and try to steal my podium!!!

 

I don't care about an inaccurate sensus. I was never discussing that. You changed the subject to that to avoid the actual discussion. To avoid reading how wrong you are on this.

 

without an accurate count of homeless how can we determine the magnitude of the problem?

the fundamental flaw in your cost equations.

You rely solely on numbers and not real world street happenings. You will not entertain any opinion that claims anything different than your numbers. Im here telling you(again) that numbers lie. But you keep going only off of numbers and some of us will use the numbers in tandem with other facts to come to our conclusions.

The fact is, without an accurate count and review of the homeless, we dont know the true costs. One place might have mostly addicts as homless that will cost x amount. Another may have mental issues with most of thier homeless, which could be a completely different cost.

I will not subscribe to anything that says the cost is x per person because most peoples needs differ. One person may need a lifetime of rehab. Another person only 6 months.

numbers are often flawed and usually worked up to back an agenda. Anyone not acknowledging that and only using numbers to formulate opinions is very much head in sand.