<div class="quote_poster">Miss_Toy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well let me put it like this Hardaway probably means that he dont like "gay" people for what they stand for...I dont either...but yeah know what what if he said he hates white people? </div> What do you gay people stand for? You're acting like its some sort of political movement. They stand for not being treated differently simply because of their sexual preferences. *Shock!*
Yes I do agree with you, BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Being with the same sex is kinda...much..... I think thats wrong Now I dont hate gay people and I wont mistreat them, but thats something that I dont agree with
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Shape ,you're attracted to certain types of people, right? What do you think determines that? Are you choosing to be attracted to them? Does that even remotely make sense? I'm not a biology expert, so I don't know if its brain chemistry or something else. But it's silly to think sexual attraction is a concious decision.</div> I'm not sure what attracts me to different people. It could be one thing (looks, personality, etc.) or it could be a variety of things, and it really depends on my mood during the time. Looking back when I used to date a lot of different girls, I'd make a concious decision to pursue the hottest girl at the bar or club I went to. The group of friends I was with, would determine who the girl was and that would be the one to pursue for the night. My point is, can the environment and peer pressure from a group alter who or what you find attractive? Is it a chemical reaction or still something spawning from your subconcious? Thanks for the links 23MJordan23.
"but thats something that I dont agree with" Homosexuality is not a belief or chosen preference. How can you disagree with how someone is born? "they shouldn't be having sex before marriage " Why not, XP? @Shapecity "My point is, can the environment and peer pressure from a group alter who or what you find attractive? Is it a chemical reaction or still something spawning from your subconscious?" Peer pressure may alter superficial/lusty attraction "She has a real nice a$$ O . O, 'PYT'." Peer pressure can alter what type of people you want to lust after yes, but peer pressure does not communicate to the subconscious. Peer pressure is conscious and logical "people say smoking is cool, I go out and try a smoke." Chemistry (less superficial attraction) is not something that can be forced onto a person, it is not something that yourself or people can choose. "Thanks for the links 23MJordan23." It's cool.
<div class="quote_poster">23MJordan23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why shouldn't gays be allowed in the NBA? If they can play basketball, what does it matter?</div> Because no guy wants a gay guy around checking out his package. They say they don't but how can you feel comfortable around them. Being gay is a choice if your parents raised you right you shouldn't have a problem. I can't really back my theory up because most of you aren't religious so I'm not going to try and prove my point, but basically I don't want to post up on a gay guy and would prefer them not to be in the showers with my team.
<div class="quote_poster">Detroit Madness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I can't really back my theory up because most of you aren't religious so I'm not going to try and prove my point, but basically I don't want to post up on a gay guy and would prefer them not to be in the showers with my team.</div> When your "theory" is based on religion, it isn't a theory at all. It's dogma. And you can't try to prove it, because it's impossible to prove. All that said, I can't blame someone for feeling uncomfortable showering with gay men. It's not something they can control. It's not like they have a choice in the matter. <div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My point is, can the environment and peer pressure from a group alter who or what you find attractive? Is it a chemical reaction or still something spawning from your subconcious? </div> I don't know. But either way, it's not a conscious choice. You can't willfully turn it on or off.
<div class="quote_poster">shapecity Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">My point is, can the environment and peer pressure from a group alter who or what you find attractive? Is it a chemical reaction or still something spawning from your subconcious? </div> I don't know. But either way, it's not a conscious choice. You can't willfully turn it on or off.
<div class="quote_poster">Detroit Madness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because no guy wants a gay guy around checking out his package. They say they don't but how can you feel comfortable around them. Being gay is a choice if your parents raised you right you shouldn't have a problem. I can't really back my theory up because most of you aren't religious so I'm not going to try and prove my point, but basically I don't want to post up on a gay guy and would prefer them not to be in the showers with my team.</div> You have a choice to shower alone, and I'm sure most locker rooms have individual stalls these days. Doesn't religion also teach you to be accepting of others? You don't have to agree with a person being gay, but you should be mature enough to accept them for what they. If your parents raised you right, as you put it, then they should have raised you to be tolerant of others and not carry a prejudice or hate, for someone different. Homosexuals are not the boogie men who live in your closet, which your religion makes them out to be.
<div class="quote_poster">Detroit Madness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because no guy wants a gay guy around checking out his package. They say they don't but how can you feel comfortable around them. Being gay is a choice if your parents raised you right you shouldn't have a problem. I can't really back my theory up because most of you aren't religious so I'm not going to try and prove my point, but basically I don't want to post up on a gay guy and would prefer them not to be in the showers with my team.</div> When the NBA players are out there on the court, they aren't even thinking about one of their teammates checking them out on the court. This is NBA basketball, not men's prison basketball. It is all about getting the W. The way your parents raise you does not dictate who you will actually be attracted to. Your parents cannot beat you into becoming straight, that is not only abuse, but is an unethical and secular method of making a child fit your own standards. What constitutes to being raised "the right way?"
YOUR NOT BORN GAY! And GOD dont make "gay" people....but I dont want to get into a debate everybody bleves in whatever they want, but as for me its sin..against the bible and Im a firm beleiver in the bible, but lets move on Hardaway dont like gay people...so what! MOVE ON.....
"YOUR NOT BORN GAY!" Stop the shouting and prove it. "And GOD dont make "gay" people" Homosexuals were not made in factories were they?...So now God is a hypocrite that disowns certain "sinister" people? God created <u>mankind</u> gay people are apart of mankind "but lets move on" No, you can though. "Hardaway dont like gay people...so what! MOVE ON....." Nah, let the thread go on as long as it will.
Ok, ok, let's calm down. lol Yes the thread can go on with the subject as long as there are no threats or attacks. The thread title is "Tim Hardway Rips Homosexuals" afterall. Continue.
Well in my old scientific, Homosexuality thread, I pretty much showed that one is not completely born gay. It is somewhat of a choice (a predisposition). These appear to be the empirical facts.
<font color=""Red"">And I quote from Hardaway</font> "It shouldn't be in the world or in the United States." .......................ok I do agree, but it is in the world....soooooooooo whats your point?...nothing is gonna change that <font size=""5"">APPLOGY LETTER:</font> <font color=""Red"">And again I quote:</font> "As an African-American, I know all too well the negative thoughts and feelings hatred and bigotry cause ," Hardaway said Thursday in a statement issued by his agent. "I regret and apologize for the statements that I made that have certainly caused the same kinds of feelings and reactions. YEAH RIGHT! "I especially apologize to my fans, friends and family in Miami and Chicago. I am committed to examining my feelings and will recognize, appreciate and respect the differences among people in our society," (I think he is LYING) he said. "I regret any embarrassment I have caused the league on the eve of one of their greatest annual events." "Finally, someone who is honest," he said. "It is ridiculous, absurd, petty, bigoted and shows a lack of empathy that is gargantuan and unfathomable. But it is honest. (True...true, but choose your words carefully) <font size=""5"">My Overall View:</font> Hardaway is iggnorant. He knew what he was doing and how he was saying it. People like that makes me sick to my stomach He could have choosen his words carfully, but he did not and THIS is what you get......
lol i love when there is a gay guy in the room and all the men think he is attracted to them. and to shapecity talking about your parents raising you right.. you can't assume everyone was born in north america and has the same culture and beliefs as you. i know some grandparents that are still racist towards blacks and others. are you gonna tell a jew that he was raised wrong for hating pakistanis when its been going on for generations in the area they were born? unless you know a persons background and where they come from, you cant call them a racist or anything like that. as for kramer from seinfeld, we know he's lived in the states and his background and for him to still say those things makes him a racist.
Being gay is like being a pedophile they say they were born like that which is kinda funny. Not trying to be mean because I have no problem with gay people but I do have a problem when they try to change our culture.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well in my old scientific, Homosexuality thread, I pretty much showed that one is not completely born gay. It is somewhat of a choice (a predisposition). These appear to be the empirical facts.</div> Do you have a link?
