<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Do you have a link?</div> http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...t=homosexuality
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">http://www.justbball.com/forums/showthread...t=homosexuality</div> From what I can gather, they are debunking a specific claim about a specific gene; it's not offering any alternate theory on what determines sexual orientation. If homosexuality is a "predisposition", where does that come from? Even a predisposition can be innate -- something you're born with.
If you read the book "Next" by Micheal Chricton, it talks about the fallacy of how people have essentially made-up the gay gene to explain homosexuality. They have almost completely solved the human genome, and their is still no proof a of a gay gene, it is complete speculation.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you read the book "Next" by Micheal Chricton, it talks about the fallacy of how people have essentially made-up the gay gene to explain homosexuality. They have almost completely solved the human genome, and their is still no proof a of a gay gene, it is complete speculation.</div> There is so much about human nature that isn't understood. Even if you solve the human genome, that doesn't mean you understand the human genome.
Attraction is not a choice. No one sits down to think about who they are going to be attracted to. Now that being said, What would make people think that homosexuality (Intensive Attraction for the same sex) is some sort of choice? Everyones brain is different, that means, the brain will interpret chemicals differently. That is why you have many types of straight, gay and bisexual people. Is there a such thing as a "bisexual" gene? or a straight gene? no...Our brain is the center of what we will and will not be sexually attracted to.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There is so much about human nature that isn't understood. Even if you solve the human genome, that doesn't mean you understand the human genome.</div> That could be true, or my theory could be true. My theory is that mentally weak people experience a traumatic event or go through a very stressful time, and some of them choose alternate lifestyles to help them cope with this stress. This can lead them to become gay, or bi, or gothic, or developing fetishes. Is this theory correct? We don't know. But just because the "in their nature or genetics" explanation is more accepting or favourable towards homosexuals doesn't mean its correct.
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That could be true, or my theory could be true. My theory is that mentally weak people experience a traumatic event or go through a very stressful time, and some of them choose alternate lifestyles to help them cope with this stress. This can lead them to become gay, or bi, or gothic, or developing fetishes. Is this theory correct? We don't know. But just because the "in their nature or genetics" explanation is more accepting or favourable towards homosexuals doesn't mean its correct.</div> As you say, we don't know. The difference is my "theory" is rooted in a basic respect for people who are different than me, while yours is rooted in a disrespect/dislike for people that are different than you. If I don't understand why someone else is the way they are, I don't assume it's because of a weakness on their part. That's insulting and bigoted.
<div class="quote_poster">Miss_Toy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">YOUR NOT BORN GAY! And GOD dont make "gay" people....but I dont want to get into a debate everybody bleves in whatever they want, but as for me its sin..against the bible and Im a firm beleiver in the bible, but lets move on Hardaway dont like gay people...so what! MOVE ON.....</div> COME ON! Why wouldn't god make homosexuals? Because they are against the norm or different? What about handicapped people? Did god make them, did he make a mistake or do they come from storks? Thats ridiculous....
<div class="quote_poster">Detroit Madness Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because no guy wants a gay guy around checking out his package. They say they don't but how can you feel comfortable around them. Being gay is a choice if your parents raised you right you shouldn't have a problem. I can't really back my theory up because most of you aren't religious so I'm not going to try and prove my point, but basically I don't want to post up on a gay guy and would prefer them not to be in the showers with my team.</div> Thats a weak arguement. John Amechi was gay, and you don't hear stories of him trying to bend over teamates in the shower or getting boners while being backed down. Why are gay men portrayed as horny all the time like a 15 year old boy.
<div class="quote_poster">norespect Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Thats a weak arguement. John Amechi was gay, and you don't hear stories of him trying to bend over teamates in the shower or getting boners while being backed down. Why are gay men portrayed as horny all the time like a 15 year old boy.</div> exactly... why do guys think gay dudes are going to grab them. Do you grab any old woman you see?? No. Even if she's hot, you may talk to her, flirt with her, but it's not like any old random chick you see you're going to start humping their leg.
Yall are funny...I thought this was about Hardaway talkin bout how he dont like gay people..not gay issues
<div class="quote_poster">phunDamentalz Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">exactly... why do guys think gay dudes are going to grab them. Do you grab any old woman you see?? No. Even if she's hot, you may talk to her, flirt with her, but it's not like any old random chick you see you're going to start humping their leg.</div> Revise this analogy. Grabbing women to hump their leg *woof*?
<div class="quote_poster">23MJordan23 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Revise this analogy. Grabbing women to hump their leg <u>*woof*</u>?</div> Invalid Video Link
<div class="quote_poster">Miss_Toy Wrote</div><div class="quote_post"> Yall are funny...I thought this was about Hardaway talkin bout how he dont like gay people..not gay issues</div> I know you're new to this site, but try and clean up your posts grammatically, they're very annoying to read. Edit: Wow, embarassing...
<div class="quote_poster">XSV Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I know you're new to this site, but try and clean up your posts grammatically, they're very annoying to read.</div> That's better.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">There is so much about human nature that isn't understood. Even if you solve the human genome, that doesn't mean you understand the human genome.</div> The whole point of the article was that it was irresponsible for anyone to just say "homosexuality is based on a gay gene" or vice versa. LeVay and Hamer let propaganda invent scientific evidence that is not there. You're supreme liberal view (though I myself am a liberal btw) on this issue is not the empirical one. That is absolutely clear, and a fact.
<div class="quote_poster">huevonkiller Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The whole point of the article was that it was irresponsible for anyone to just say "homosexuality is based on a gay gene" or vice versa. LeVay and Hamer let propaganda invent scientific evidence that is not there. You're supreme liberal view (though I myself am a liberal btw) on this issue is not the empirical one.</div> What is my "liberal view"? I never said there was a gay gene. I don't know why some people are straight and some aren't. But I'm not going to presume it's because of some fault of their own or their upbringing.
Apparently all gay people have faulty upbringings that forces them to feel attracted to the same sex. People that are gay obviously have bad parents; as a result, they sit down and contemplate whether to be gay to cope with the "stresses of life" or to be straight, and they all choose to be gay.
