Tim Kawakami interview with Joe Lacob

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  1. Run BJM

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    I still don't understand why we shouldn't have confidence in Riley. Seems like Mullin was given 10 times as much trust and confidence and was mostly a bust while Riley has really nailed a few transactions and people are still saying he should be replaced ASAP. Riley drafted Steph, he moved AR & co. for Lee (how many times have we tried and failed over the years to get a great big man? not that Lee is a monster post scorer or anything but shit he beats the hell out of Al Harrington, Troy Murphy, etc.), he signed Dorell to a great contract. And as I always mention he had to dump Crawford and Maggette and we're only beginning to recover from that (since those expirings are starting to gain value now).

    And yeah Monta for Favors feels like J-Rich for BW all over again. But it would be nice to have Curry/Lee with Udoh and Favors in the wings and 20 mil of cap space in the offseason. Nene, Perkins, Battier, T. Prince, Carl Landry and a plethora of others are all available. Its a pretty nice FA class.
     
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    As a result of this interview, there's a lot of talk on the internet that Steph is "on the trading block," which is not at all how I interpreted Lacob's words.

    I just read an article that said that the W's are now in the mix on the Melo trades, since their owner has said that he's willing to break up our backcourt.

    On PTI yesterday, on the odds part of the show, the question was "How likely is it that the Warriors trade Curry?" Wilbon said 100% and Tony said 90%. He said, "If the owner said it, it's going to happen." And made a sarcastic comment about Lacob being disappointed in Curry because he's not averaging 26 ppg like the last month of last season. He said that the W's owner said that he'd trade Curry but Ellis is 'untouchable.' Which again seems inaccurate to me.

    There was a few other mentions of Curry being on the block that I encountered in various articles today.

    Again, I didn't interpret Lacob's words that way, but a lot of people apparently did. Lacob didn't say anything surprising to me. If it improves the team, you do whatever it takes...obviously. That's a big "if" though, there's not too many ways you're gonna trade Curry and upgrade the position.

    Anyway, first, I hope I haven't misunderstood the interview. Second, I hope all the gossiping doesn't have negative effects on Curry's mindset. I don't know, it just caught me off guard reading all this shit today.
     
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    Here's what Lacob actually said (at least this is what Kamikazi says Lacob said):

    Basically it sounds like he is just a practical person. Any GM/Owner in the league would trade any of their players if it made the team better. If you were Miami, would you do a multi-team trade of LeBron James/Cap Filler for Blake Griffin/Deron Williams/Kevin Durant?

    Yes, of course. Any trade is a good trade if you get more than you give up.

    With that said, I see nothing in there that suggests Labob wants to trade Curry. Not at all. He's just saying that no one is untouchable, as per reason stated above. Of course, PTI is about as news-worthy as Real Housewives, so...
     
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    Yup. The chances of someone giving us a Blake/Deron/Durant for Curry and Ellis are none and none. I think we got carried away a bit because it was Lacob talking and Carmelo was mentioned. I doubt even Carmelo would come to Golden State. We have to become a playoff team first before the top tiered players like Melo or Dwight Howard would come here AND sign an extension. Until then we should try to improve our bench or upgrade our 5 spot. We could give the cap space we get from expirings and use it towards Marc Gasol or DeAndre Jordan (restricted). Kendrick Perkins is another big body who can clog the middle (unrestricted). Another guy who may want to leave Denver after Carmelo is Nene (unrestricted). He may refuse his ETO if Melo leaves.
     
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    Yeah its a classic case of the media blowing something out of proportion. I love PTI but I'm sure Wilbon and Kornheiser didn't even read the interview, some intern or producer just gave them the headline and they went with it. What Lacob said is perfectly logical though, if we're getting a top 10 player in the league back then you have to trade Curry for them. But otherwise he's probably not going anywhere.

    Interesting that after the interview Curry's been getting hot though. Two straight 30 point games. If we're not going to give him the ball and let him run the team then I'm glad hes at least taking his share of shots. Hes a high efficiency shooter and a deadly scorer so if hes not being used to facilitate then godamnit tell him to take his shots.
     
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    Exactly the reason why we should keep him over Monta (at least that's the flavor I'm drinking today). It seems that when Curry's mojo is rolling, he becomes a much better passer too.
     
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    I really hate how this story is being spun. Curry actually commented on the backlash, and not the actual story.

    This is such a non-story that seems to be fueling the wrong type of talk.
     
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    Yeah that was exactly what I was worried about...all the gossiping is gonna lead to rumors, and the rumors aren't gonna do anybody any favors. I guess he HAS played at a high level the last two games, but still, no need to upset what harmony this team has right now.
     
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    Apparently Nene could be traded at the deadline because hes upset that the Nugz have been 100% focused on Melo while hes been waiting all season to negotiate a contract extension. He has an opt out clause in his contract like Melo and will use it this offseason, apparently he loves Denver and wants to stay but hes also told the Nuggets that if hes traded he prefers Miami, Dallas, and a third mystery team. Once he hits the open market he could sign anywhere though (obviously the aforementioned teams wouldn't have anything more than the MLE though) and the Nugz may not want to lose him for nothing if they can't come to an agreement on the contract extension. I believe both sides are still a little concerned over the status of the team though. Nene doesn't want to be locked into a contract with the Nuggets if Melo and Billups are moved at the deadline and the Nuggets may not to pay him that much on a rebuilding team (though I don't know why they wouldn't want him around long term).

    I hope this is a guy Lacob is targeting. Hes got the kind of size and inside scoring ability we need and I think hes a good fit next to Lee. Neither one is a great defender but that would be a pretty nice front court IMO. I'd be willing to move Udoh or BW in a deal to get him along with expirings or Beans or anything but Steph, Lee, or Monta although I would move Monta if we also got another piece coming back. Monta + extras for Nene and JR Smith or Afflalo or Birdman or what have you? Its tempting.
     
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    It's not as bad of an option for Denver as it sounds, because if they free up enough room and move Billups in a separate deal, they can sign both Melo and Paul. I could definitely see that happening. Not sure about Monta + Extras, I think expirings are more valuable to Denver
     
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    Yeah I'm sort of torn with Monta. On the one hand hes truly turning into a super star type of dominating scorer, clutch performer, making his teammates better. On the other hand do I think we can ever win with him as our SG? Will his trade value ever be higher? I'm not sure. Hypothetically, even if we were to land Nene for expirings and Udoh for example we'd end up with a Curry/Monta/DW/Lee/Nene core, certainly an upgrade but still looks forever doomed defensively in large part because of the lack of defense at SG. But what if you could flip Monta for a big two way swingman like an Iguodala or Caron Butler? I think that team would be even better.
     
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    You don't build a winner trying to get "names." You build with young talent that you identify earlier than others. Marc Gasol? Scola? Splitter? Ubaka? Al Horford? Noah? Those are the kind of guys you need to find. Once you go after the Nenes its done. They are are on the downside, otherwise why are they available? Your franchise is doomed. Look at Elton Brand, Eddy Curry, Nazr Mohammed, Okafor. Those guys have huge $$ and they are killing their teams.

    Look back on the last Warriors championship team, the league then was dominated by centers/low post scorers, Abdul-Jabbar, the Big E, Chamberlain (at the end), Unseld, Sam Lacey. But the Warriors won with George Johnson and Clifford Ray. They weren't great scorers, but they played great defense and rebounded. The best way for the Warriors to get better is to get bigger and stronger with guys who know how to play defense and rebound. The Lakers are studs because in addition to Gasol and Bryant being elite scorers, Bynum and Gasol know how to defend without fouling too much (Bynum is still learning).

    Frankly, the Warriors have done a very poor job of drafting and signing foreign players who are bigs. Biedrins has topped out and is in serious decline. Try to think of another player who has regressed as much in so short a period of time. They had a chance at Noah and picked Brandon Wright instead.
     
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    I'd say the best big we've had since the the 70's was probably Cliff Robinson. He was the one guy that would actually shut down KG.
     
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    Just imagine if we had uncle cliffy when he was in his prime. The guy was really multi-faceted.
     

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