Time to blow it up and rebuild?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by SharpesTriumph, Dec 2, 2021.

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Rebuild?

  1. Yes

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  1. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Who knows.
     
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    If Olshit and CJ stay, I'm done. I have reached the point that getting rid of those 2 is a higher priority than keeping Dame. Jody may be disconnected, even clueless, but if Dame wanted Olshit gone, he would be gone.
     
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    I don't trust Olshey to strip this team for parts and rebuild. So long he is GM, I'd rather see retooling. There should also be a "major shake-up of starters" trade ought to happen before moving on from the Dame era. (We know that isn't going to happen). So we'll get to "blow it up" sooner than later, and the steps up to that point are going to be painful, and obvious, but hopefully canning the GM is one of them.
     
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    FUCK YES IT IS
     
  5. Cugel

    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Being a Blazers fan and wanting success requires thinking in terms of, shall we say, "geological" time scales. Rest Dame. Period. Get him to 110% and ready for 2022-23 (painful to even type that). This season is OVER. It's over Johnny. Let Nurk and Roco walk, trade CJ for a dependable piece and a pick/expirings at the deadline.
     
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    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    why let Nurk and Roco walk? probably could get some value for them for teams contending this year, especially Nurk.
     
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    How about doing what they should’ve done years ago and trading McCollum first? And then see how they play with an actual balanced roster. I don’t even care about what we get back, I just want him gone now. And if Olshey won’t do it, find someone that will.

    Seriously, imagine a lineup of Dame, Powell, Nas, Nance, and Nurk. Idk about any of you, but I would want to watch that team and I think they would win a lot more consistently.
     
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    Maybe? If Nurk decided to buy in and play every game.
     
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    Nurk leads Portland in every advanced stat. #1 in win shares/48. #1 in PER. #1 in BPM. #1 in DPM. #1 in VORP. He’s the only one that rebounds. He’s an elite screen setter. He’s underpaid. He’s the least of this teams problems.
     
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    Sure. I don’t agree at all but I can respect your stats and opinion.
     
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    To be honest, if the decision is made to blow it up/go another direction, should wait till end of season unless you are offered a bundle now for top assets.
     
  12. Wizard Mentor

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    This.

    My general idea has always been to surround our starting backcourt with 3 & D guys. However, I am rethinking this. What good does it do to have 4 Steph Curry's on the perimeter when CJ has the ball? He sure seems to shoot more than he makes a critical pass.
     
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    This same discussion is going on with regards to Seachickens.
     
  14. Scalma

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    CJ has his value, but it’s redundant in Portland. We have a million guards that can score but are so thin on players that can rebound or have length/size to defend bigger players. It’s so unbalanced yet Olshey won’t use his surplus to balance it out. It’s infuriating.
     
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    It is undeniable that Nurk has been Portland's best player this year. Unfortunately, it also answers the question of "how good a team is if Nurk is your best player". Is he underpaid? A little. Is he a star player worth building around? Absolutely not. I certainly hope Portland does not make the mistake of making him the next CJ - overpaid for his contributions to winning.

    Given that this season seems lost - the way to look forward is to make sure you can control what you can control - and not deciding to pay too much money to Nurk is of paramount importance, and this means - maybe it is time to trade him when he is at his peak individual form to get as much as possible for him - because the alternatives are getting nothing when he walks or overpaying him - and neither option is appealing.
     
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    I agree it’s not a good thing that he’s our best player. But that’s not his fault. I just think Nurk gets way too much shit and is under appreciated. Wish we had more Nurks (size) and fewer CJs.
     
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    I absolutely do not think it is his fault - I just think that trying to make him more than what he is - is a mistake - and since we are likely stuck with CJ going forward (I agree he is a good player, but hard to trade given his salary and length of contract) - not making the same mistake with Nurk is important.
     
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    Probably time to start a 2022 Draft thread at least. See what prospects we can convince ourselves are the next MJ.
     
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    Softest "Best" player in the whole league. "The Bosnian Wimp"

    Absolute Cry baby. Just think if he was tough?
     
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    He's an average at best 5 in the league, imo. If you are going to have a 7' rim protector I'd rather have on that can block shots. He averages 1/2 block per game. He a decent passer, but struggles with touch around the hoop.
     

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