Time to rebuild?

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Shooter, Nov 13, 2010.

  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    You must be mistaken..... lol
     
  2. MickZagger

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    Tim Duncan borderline HOF?

    The guy was the centerpiece of 4 NBA titles. 3x Finals MVP, 2x league MVP, 12x All-Star.

    He's as surefire HOF as it gets.
     
  3. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Pure crazy talk.
     
  4. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    With Roy and LMA's contract you might as well get used to this team for a little while. I'm sure there will be tweaks made and some trades around edges, but neither of those guys are going to be very movable for a couple of years (at best).
     
  5. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Pretty much, and unless we plan on letting Batum and Oden walk away for nothing, they will both have significant contracts as well.
     
  6. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I refuse to believe anyone who has watched more than 20 seconds of basketball actually considers Duncan a "borderline" HOFer.
     
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    Yea Duncan will go down as one of the best PF this game has ever seen. Best PF of his generation and one of the most efficient players ever.
     
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    OK, OK, he's a HOF for sure. My thoughts were that he's no Wilt or MJ and the TEAM plays very well.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Quite an insanely high standard you've set there, Pablo. Because neither are 99% of the league and fellow HOF'ers.
     
  10. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I agree. They need a HOF for HOFers. The cream of the crop. The best of the best. Tim Duncan would not be a HOF of the HOFer.
     
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    PG:
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    We have many holes to fill
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    You forgot the "if healthy" caveat in that lineup
     
  13. Natebishop3

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    I think Aldridge is a perfectly great second or third option. He just crumbles when he's expected to carry the offensive load.
     
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    PG: Armon Johnson
    SG: Wesley Matthews
    SF: Luke Babbitt
    PF: Dante Cunningham
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    On the brightside we are building a very nice second unit
     
  15. Natebishop3

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    I'm not ready to say that Babbitt and Cunningham are keepers. I think Johnson has a lot of potential, and Matthews is being paid like he's part of the future. I'm hoping that Matthews gets his game together. He's playing like shit right now.
     
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    Inner circle Hall of Famers. Duncan might be part of that, though. It depends on how exclusive your "inner circle" is.

    I have Duncan as outside the top-ten of all-time, but probably in the top-fifteen.
     
  17. BLAZER PROPHET

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    I don't see him in the top 25.
     
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    Duncan is pretty much considered by most "basketball minds" as the best PF of all time. Those who like counting stats might say Malone. Those who like old-school players might say Pettit or Hayes. Those under 21 might say Barkley or KG. But there's not a ton of competition in the minds of most.
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    I definitely think Duncan is one of the best power forwards of all time, but I don't think he revolutionized the position, and the inner circle should be reserved for guys who revolutionized their positions... Wilt... Jordan.... Magic.
     
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    I don't agree that "most basketball minds" have Duncan as the no-doubt greatest PF of all-time or that the only argument for Malone was "counting stats." While he had amazing longevity and durability, he also had fantastic per-season numbers, quite arguably superior to Duncan's. Duncan was the superior team defender. I actually think they're fairly close in terms of man defense, as Malone was underrated on defense but nearly impossible to dislodge by players trying to post up.

    I agree that there's not much competition, but I think Malone has at least as good an argument as Duncan. Barkley or Garnett might be considered dark horse candidates.
     

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