To all of you climate change deniers

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  1. MarAzul

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    Sure I did. I even read another article. Posted a link to it above.
     
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    Another big clue pointing to it not being man made, is the failure of Obama to stop the rise of the seas.
    If it were man made, he surely would have succeeded with all you boy supporting him.

    Right!!

    "was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."


    Now to be very honest, I don't think he failed, I just thing he overloaded his backside.

    Unfortunately, he did not understand the Architecture of the Climate system of our planet. Architecture is not the study of one science but all branches of science.
    The understanding of which, can not be done alone, it must be done with and understand of history, evolution and even art.

    https://www.investors.com/politics/...ure-he-wasnt-able-slow-the-rising-sea-levels/
     
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    The bulk of my family lives in rural Alabama, thanks for asking.
     
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    Hispanics in rural Alabama are anti-trump. Interesting development, and duly noted. Maybe the ones in Wyoming, Montana and North Dakota will catch up with progressive rural Alabama someday.
     
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    "Latino leaders are refusing to accept exit poll data showing President-elect Donald Trump won 29 percent of the Hispanic vote Tuesday.

    Instead the leaders said they stand by the findings of Latino Decisions polling firm, whose data showed Trump a record low 18 percent of Latinos voted for Trump."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2...-did-not-win-29-percent-hispanic-vote-n682291

    Okay, your turn.
     
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    I sure hope the ones working the docks don't.
     
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    It's same snark over on the Cruisers Net. Sailor think they are debating the causes of climate change. Which is really not debatable.
    The Liberal Sailor are all sending the right virtue signals with the solar panels they tout, the electric outboards they use. Virtuous man!
    Chiding the sailors that still use a diesel engine, unless of coarse they run the sucker on bio fuel that's available in about two location.

    But zero real discussions on what is actually happening? Nor what will happen when we reach the toggle point. No speculation when that will be.
    Nor is there one grant issued to research for a possible answer.
     
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    350px-Thermohaline_Circulation_2.png

    The above chart shows the main currents that transfer heat in ocean currents. Red is the warm water flow north and the cold waster move from the north to the south.

    The current not shown here is the one I spoke of above, through the Bering strait that was previously blocked due to low ocean levels and the glaciers. It cleared of ice long enough for a few tribe to scamper across the low bare land before it closed again due to rising seas. This event then began a more rapid melting of the Arctic ice enhance the currents flowing in the seas. The higher the sea level the more warm pacific water that flows through the straight into the Arctic ocean, melting more ice.
    This is a mass flow of warm water. A researcher in Alaska compares it to be like more than 5 Mississippi Rivers.

    This flow through the straight it powered by thermal and chemical forces. The cold water and highly saline water sinking and run to the lowest point which is clear down in the great southern ocean in comparison to the arctic sea bed. So the deep water flow out of arctic into the Atlantic on beyond. Making way for the warm waters of the Pacific to flow in through the Bering strait, driven by gravity which cause the ocean to always seek equal level though out the entire basin. It never quite happen, so the currents flow.

    Of course this sort of thing can not go on for ever, I think we see the Glaciers in the North disappearing just like in the mountain farther south, and the sea ice flexing but perhaps over all diminishing.

    I am sure would like to see some research on would happen then when this flow all but stops. But I can not find any!!!



    The big ocean current charts I posted above, I found years ago in an old Navy book created by the US Navy and the British Admiralty, publish in 1943. I hear rumor one of the uses was for US submarines to lie waiting in those currents during the day when hunting Japanese Shipping in their sector. No need to expend battery power with the help of the currents.

    I made large scale charts of them years ago for my use, and now I have them in Tif files calibrated for navigation use on my boat.
    Can't find anything modern nearly as good. Near as I have been able to tell, they are very accurate. I once was able to navigate to that big eddy in the Pacific with a sailboat, and there I found a boat load of glass fishing floats. Well I should have taken a boat load. Only took five I think.
     
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    Alright guys, What do we do about it??
    If men caused it, would getting rid of 3/4s of them fix it? Or will just making them walk, takes care of it?

    Before you vote, we ought to have a clue. Don't you agree @SlyPokerDog , @PtldPlatypus, @riverman ?
     
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    This graph created by NOAA shows the CO2 spiking greater heights than before, as we near the end of this Glacial cycle, but the temperature has not
    quite reached the height of prior high points. Although carrying on for some time now rather than reaching the zenith of the cycle. This sort of suggest that we are
    being delayed in ending this cycle somehow. Continental drift? The Bering strait is no doubt wider this time. Is our Meridional heat transfer system just functioning better now at the near end of this cycle? Well then, what did men do to cause the temperature not to rise quite as much?

    Are we stuck here, and our justly deserved glacier will be delayed until we fix the man made screw up?
     
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    How many grand kids do you have? 4? If you do you should kill 3 of them. Be the leader we need.
     
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    Not going to help Sly. Even if you add yours too.
     
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    It's the only humane thing to do.
     
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    This thread went from climate change to murder pretty quickly.....in the words of Sitting Bull.....Walk softly on the earth......a joke about his name in 10 9 8.........
     
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    I always thought if you procreate during your life....you should be a futurist...ultimately an optimist...teach them well and hope for the best.....build a legacy that they can profit from for generations...maybe that's money, property or just teaching them how to fish, garden and forage
     
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    Yes, I was just sitting there sort of wondering what sort of response Lanny deserves.
    I was pretty sure Sly was trying to participle with a sic.

    But Lanny? No I think he might deserve some attention.
     
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    You win. I was lying. I’ve never even seen a Mexican.
     
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    I didn’t realize Hispanics were a monarchy with “leaders” who speak on behalf of them. Next time you talk to the king of the Mexicans ask him why he refused to accept polling data. Some self proclaimed Hispanic “leaders” (I laugh every time I type it) refusing to accept a poll because they don’t like the outcome is....nothing. It literally doesn’t mean shit. It’s actually painfully ironic that you’re grouping an entire racial group into a single category in some sort of attempt at being progressive.
     
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    I forage. I forage through the pockets of drunks. How do think I get money to buy cheap bourbon? Can that be taught? Damn toot'n and I'm open for business.
     
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    What king did I talk to? I did a little research which prevents the mouth from gathering feet.

    Edit: Any way you want to look at it, by the poll, by the leaders or just by common sense I think you can readily see that Trump is not the darling, or even close to it, of the Hispanic population in this country.

    Now, if you've got a credible source refuting it such as King Trump, let's have it.
     

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