To everyone who says Bowen isn't even a tad bit dirty...

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Bastard kicked Wally in the face! But I don't care if you are a fan of the Spurs or not, you can't argue that he sometimes does to thing a little bit "dirty." I am not saying he's a dirty player, and I am not taking his god-like defensive ability (my opinion, probably the best perimeter defender in the NBA). But I made this thread because people defend Bowen when people call him dirty, and they make it sound like he's never done anything dirty. He has.I do agree that so many things get taken out of hand, like when Ray Allen and Vince bi*ch about him. They are just frustrated because he's such agood defender and he disrupts the hell out of their game. But he DOES indeed make some plays and do some things that aren't right.EDIT: By the way, the elevation on that jump (in the gif above) is amazing.

 

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HAhahahhahahahahha, that is one of the funniest GIFs I've seen...Just BOOM right in Wallys face. But yes, I feel he is somewhat dirty. I don't get to watch him as much as others because my team plays in the East, so I can't really contribute much to this thread.

 

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I think this thread is a bit lax, if anything. What's the point of posting a .gif of him jump-kicking a guy in the face? Of course he is a dirty player. That stuff he pulled with Steve Francis wasn't accidental either. There's no way your feet can possibly move that far unintentionally. The guy is a good defender, but that doesn't make it okay. He should get watched more carefully.

 

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Yeah I've seen this before. the dudes gonna get shot if he keeps playing like a scumbag. how many ankles has he broken, without dribbling the ball?

 

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That play where he kicked Wally in the face is dirty, I will agree with you. But when he boxed Vince Carter out after he shot the three, and Vince twisted his ankle or broke it or whatever happenned, that is NOT dirty. As a basketball player, I have done that a few times and its not on purpose. Somebody has done that to me, and I take it in to account that its a foul, but I know he didnt mean to do it on purpose. It is just a reaction. He is a physical player, but he isnt as a dirty as some players in the league.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ballerman2112 @ Nov 22 2006, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That play where he kicked Wally in the face is dirty, I will agree with you. But when he boxed Vince Carter out after he shot the three, and Vince twisted his ankle or broke it or whatever happenned, that is NOT dirty. As a basketball player, I have done that a few times and its not on purpose. Somebody has done that to me, and I take it in to account that its a foul, but I know he didnt mean to do it on purpose. It is just a reaction. He is a physical player, but he isnt as a dirty as some players in the league.</div>Yeah that Vince Carter scenerio, Bruce did nothing wrong. That's why I said it my original post that when Ray Allen and VC bi*ch and moan about Bowen, it's because they are frustrated (because Bowen is such a good defender and he aggravates the hell out of them). But yeah I have seen that Bowen/Carter play many times, and a few different angles on replay. Nothing dirty.

 

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anyone have a vid of the vc and bowen thing?

 

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I agree that he can be a dirty player, but honestly, I think that adds to how good he is defensively. I mean, he uses it as a mind game. Players talk all the time about how Bowen gets under their skin and it drives them crazy. A little hold on the shirt here, a little push there, it all adds to the mind game that Bowen is so good at playing. I am not saying it is right, but I am saying that this is who he is and how he plays. Without this, he wouldn't be the same defender he is today. Bowen uses the mind game together with his defense to become the defensive player that has won awards.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 22 2006, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah that Vince Carter scenerio, Bruce did nothing wrong. That's why I said it my original post that when Ray Allen and VC bi*ch and moan about Bowen, it's because they are frustrated (because Bowen is such a good defender and he aggravates the hell out of them). But yeah I have seen that Bowen/Carter play many times, and a few different angles on replay. Nothing dirty.</div>Or ya know, it COULD be because Bowen kicked Allen in the back, but I guess you don't consider that dirty, CB32?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 22 2006, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Or ya know, it COULD be because Bowen kicked Allen in the back, but I guess you don't consider that dirty, CB32?</div>Ray Allen has bitched about Bruce Bowen for years, it wasn't just after that incodent. He has always complained about Bowen "pushing" and "pulling on jerseys" and stuff like that. That stuff is tough, physical defense, and my AAU coach wanted us to do that in games to aggravate the opponents (it worked too). That's just Bowen being a great defender. Allen has always complained about little things like that.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That stuff he pulled with Steve Francis wasn't accidental either.</div>I agree, and Isiah did nothing wrong by speaking his thoughts about it.

 

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Pulling on a jersey isn't a little thing. That hinders the other player and it's dirty. It shouldn't be done and isn't done by almost all other players.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 22 2006, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pulling on a jersey isn't a little thing. That hinders the other player and it's dirty. It shouldn't be done and isn't done by almost all other players.</div>If you tug on a players jersey, that's dirty? Haha. S2S, I have seen 4-5 posts from you today that make me shake my head, squint my eyes, and laugh at the same time. If you tug on a players jersey a little bit is not dirty at all. Are you serious? You are worse than the refs. If you were an official you would have each team shoot 88 FT's per game if you think tugging on a jersey is dirty.Dirty is intentionally hurting someone. (Kicking someone in the face with a kick he learned from the Matrix, hitting someone, pushing them hard in mid-air, etc.) Tugging on a players' jersey is not dirty by any means.It's not like he grabbed his jersey, pulled him 6 feet, ripped it, and pushed him haha.

 

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Yeah, a lot of the time grabbing a jersey is accidental, seriously how many flagrant fouls have been given out for grabbing a jersey

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TheOkie @ Nov 22 2006, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, a lot of the time grabbing a jersey is accidental, seriously how many flagrant fouls have been given out for grabbing a jersey</div>Bowen doesn't do it accidentally, and even so I don't see anything wrong with it. It gets your opponents a bit frustrated and you get in their heads, and that's the whole point of doing it. It doesn't hurt anyone, there is nothing wrong with it at all, IMO.Also guys, it's not like you grab the jersey all the way up the court. You lighty grab it, give it a little tug, then let go. You do that a few times, and it gets into the offensive players' head, and it disrupts his concentration and performance.

 

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old old old old old news

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Nov 22 2006, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>old old old old old news</div>How is this old news? The topic doesn't have to do with just the gif. It has to do with Bowen as a player, and as long as Bowen is playing, it is never old news.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Nov 22 2006, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>old old old old old news</div>Did you even read the topic or anything? This topic wasn't really made because of the kick, it was made because I get fed up with people sticking up for Bowen 100% and saying he's not dirty at all. That was just an example, and a gif I found.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Nov 22 2006, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Did you even read the topic or anything? This topic wasn't really made because of the kick, it was made because I get fed up with people sticking up for Bowen 100% and saying he's not dirty at all. That was just an example, and a gif I found.</div>Let me demonstrate how your thread might be misinterpreted by using an extreme exampleTo everyone who says Wilt isn't just a tad good at scoring.......Dude scored 100 points :shok: I don't care if you are a philly fan or not, you can't argue that sometimes he does, you know, put the ball through the basket. I am not saying he is a good scorer, and I am not taking his godlike rebounding skills (my opinion, probably the best rebounder in the NBA). But I made this thread because people defend wilt when I say he can score, and they make it sound like he's never done none of those dunking moves. He has.I do agree that so many things get taken out of context, like when Russell says wilt is one of the greatest scorers ever. He is just frustarated because Wilt doesn't score much on him. But you have to admit, night in and night out, wilt scores baskets.EDIT: By the way, the fact that wilt scored 100 points is amazingsee what I mean?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tHe_pEsTiLeNcE @ Nov 22 2006, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Let me demonstrate how your thread might be misinterpreted by using an extreme exampleTo everyone who says Wilt isn't just a tad good at scoring.......Dude scored 100 points :shok: I don't care if you are a philly fan or not, you can't argue that sometimes he does, you know, put the ball through the basket. I am not saying he is a good scorer, and I am not taking his godlike rebounding skills (my opinion, probably the best rebounder in the NBA). But I made this thread because people defend wilt when I say he can score, and they make it sound like he's never done none of those dunking moves. He has.I do agree that so many things get taken out of context, like when Russell says wilt is one of the greatest scorers ever. He is just frustarated because Wilt doesn't score much on him. But you have to admit, night in and night out, wilt scores baskets.EDIT: By the way, the fact that wilt scored 100 points is amazingsee what I mean?</div>That was SO different than my opening post. That post you made (trying to mock/counter mine) was all about saying he could score. Nobody EVER argued that. People DO indeed argue that Bowen is not a dirty player at all, and I was proving my point that he is.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Nov 22 2006, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pulling on a jersey isn't a little thing. That hinders the other player and it's dirty. It shouldn't be done and isn't done by almost all other players.</div>How is pulling on somebodys jersy dirty? It is a smart thing to do, it doesn't physically hurt the other player, and it isnt very noticable. If you are a defender, this is one thing that you can do to gain an advantage on the opposition. There is nothing wrong with it. The defenders have to take the risk in getting the foul called so it has its consequence. Its like speeding on the road. Is that honestly considered something that is that bad? I certainly dont think so...