OT To my good white friends

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  1. H.C.

    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    But he shouldn't have to show her just because he's black.
    Shes not management, she was a tenant.

    Next thing that will happen is she will start asking black people to show proof of ownership of the car they have.
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    proof of a receipt for the groceries they have.

    It's not her place to monitor the door.
    If she was concerned a random people was going to enter the building, tell the manager. Or better yet, don't sit at the door with it open.
    At the end of the day, this lady only did it because Mr. Toles was black. No other reason.
     
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    So.... believe it or not, i was informed by My manager last night that this lady was probably following her contract.

    I have keys to a secure building for musicians downtown. We hang out outside and smoke cigs in between sets. We leave the door propped open. Both the manager and another tenant who is black, got on us for not asking the tenant for a key when he walked in. The tenant told the manager who gave me a call.

    So without any racial slurs or anything else noted that could be degrading, there is a chance that this lady was merely following rules by asking if he has a key.

    Following wasnt smart. She should have called management. But i have now learned i need to ask everyone no matter their color, for their key. (Not that color was ever a factor to me)

    The black tenant actully called the manager and told them i let them in without asking for a key and questioned rhe security of the building

    This is why i say its dangerous to assume ones thoughts and judge on them. Until there is actual proof of racially motivated action, this is a tough thing to deal with but we cant assume and then judge.
     
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  3. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Bullshit.
     
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    Actually, being black would be no reason for a pass. No reason to have keys to a place if everyone doesn't enforce the need for a key.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I thought you weren't going to show any photos of you?
     
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    If someone was crazy they could go look at all my posts - which condemn all things trump/racist/etc. I am having trouble on this one. Could she be racist? Absolutely. Could she not want people roaming her condo building? Absolutely. I just asked myself, "would you ask to see his key/fob" - the answer is probably not. But when I lived in a building like this, I know for a fact people asked others they didn't recognize - and I was appreciative of that.
     
  7. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I'm a rebel. Before my development was finished they programmed the gate to be open from 6am to 6pm.

    When we set the clocks ahead during spring the poor workers had to sit in their trucks and wait for someone to come in for the first few days.

    They are almost all hispanic guys and I saw them sitting there when I left for work and hit my garage remote which was programmed to open the main gate as well.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Better not ever run for office with that kind of lawlessness in your back pages.

    barfo
     
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    4th Floor Becky exposed by her ex:

     
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    dviss1 Emcee Referee

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    When you've been treated with racism all your life then you know. Those who don't experience it daily are the only ones coming up with the whole:
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    This???

    I watched half of your video and didn't get to hear what he actually said.

    Exposed what?
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I called a guy at Sam's Club out on it a couple of years ago. I'd been in and out of that store a million times and he'd never dug through my cart checking every item to my receipt.

    I watched him do just that to a black woman in front of me (partly it pissed me off because it took more of my time) but mostly I thought it was fucked up.

    Asked him why he'd never done that to my cart and he had some lame "security said she looked like she was stealing" bullshit excuse.

    Maybe it was true...I don't know.

    We don't go there anymore because of that....and a few other things.
     
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    You didn't check to make sure they were legal?
     
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    We may not, but should we then subjugate security and safety merely because we fear the other person may think we are racially biased by asking if he has a key to a secure building? I mean, where does the line get drawn where we need to simply move forward and security is security for all. Not just white or blacks or anyone. And when anyone white, black, etc, doesn't abide by the security measure in place, we are just to let it go because we will be considered racist if we force these security measure?

    I mean don't get me wrong D, I think she handled it wrong. The moment he said I don't need to show you a key, all she needed to say is this is a secure building for all its residents and if you live here then you should appreciate me looking out for your safety and security. Now do you live here? If so, please show me your key.

    If he still denied, then a call to management would have been in order, but the stalking part, following him to his door is not good at all.

    But are you saying because of the racial history in this country whites shouldn't be allowed t ask minorities if they are authorized to be in a secure building when they walk in without using a security measure like an fob?

    That sure doesn't seem right to me.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    If they do that then they also probably do other objectionable things.
    You're a good man so I'm not surprised by your reaction.
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    I didn't KNOW if he was lying. I might have assumed he was a racist by the way he looked and sounded to me. Kinda rednecky I'd say.

    50 year old southerner type.

    I would be more inclined to believe him if she hadn't just went through the checkout line 2 spots over.

    Like she ran back and stole 5 other things in under a minute.....doubtful.

    Costco is a million times better either way.
     
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    I'm not saying anything that you're inferring. I'm saying she NEVER would've questioned him if he was white.

    Stop acting like she wanted the building to be secure.
     
  18. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Sounds like Ms. Butinski could have used some of this:



    BNM
     
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    How do you know this though?
    How can you say for a fact she wouldnt have ask the same of a white person?
    And how are we supposed to know who is genuinely concerned about security vs using race a an excuse?

    How do we know for a fact?
    Seems like assumptions to me and that is a real dicey thing to judge on assumptions
     
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    Sorry OB, But only white people ask this question.

    When you're treated with it on a daily, you know.

    There doesn't need to be some verification process.

    We also tend to define racism differently. The N word isn't the barometer.

    Edit: You JUST experienced it when those noisy racists called the police on the brown folk working on your house. The didn't call them racial slurs did they?

    Sometimes it's just apparent.
     

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