Gotta love the Clips turning Blake Griffin into Landry Shamet in two easy stages. One assumes Jerry West knows what he's doing, but do(es) their fan(s)?
Change that $700m of a contract into what is likely 3 first round picks and a prospect? Not bad at all.
This article covers every what-if you can think of. I shouldn't post it, because this brilliant thread-killing piece of analytical mastery takes away everything, absolutely everything, that might be brought up in this thread. Whatever you do, do NOT read this article. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/02/sixers-clippers-agree-on-tobias-harris-trade.html
I'm w/ ya I know/understand why both teams did what they did & they both won in this but... W... T... F...
speaking of the impact/production ratio PER: CJ 16.9....Harris 18.7 TS%: CJ .553....Harris .605 FT Rate: CJ .155....Harris .256 Reb Rate: CJ 6.0%....Harris 12.0% assist/36: CJ 2.9....Harris 2.8 winshares/48: CJ .106....Harris .135 box plus/minus: CJ -0.2....Harris +1.6 value over replacement: CJ 0.8....Harris 1.7 Harris is a better defender than CJ as well. Now, he may get overpaid, but if he gets less than 28M/year, he'll be making less than CJ Harris sure appears to be better than CJ. At the minimum, he's on the same level. So then, if that caliber of play is why Harris has been traded 4 times, why hasn't CJ been traded once?
It was more "bad" luck that was really phenomenally "good" luck, than "process". But we've been over that before.
Don't forget the Clippers also got the pick that turned into Shai Gilgeous-Alexander in the Blake Griffin trade too. So Shamet, SGA, and two future 1sts.
Yeah, kind of hard to call it a process to draft someone and then have them miss their first year and then get another high pick only to do it over again with the first pick sitting out a year. I highly doubt this forum would have been that patient and been okay with that much losing.
That chain of events will never be duplicated. It's luck beyond even getting Tim Duncan because David Robinson sat out a year. (Not saying any 76 is in their league, but "process".)
OKC didn't win a chip with KD,Harden and WB, does it mean their "blueprint" for rebuild wasn't good as well? The Sixers were actually a competitive team on the court during The Process years, i think they even beat us twice. The Process is about maximizing your chances to acquire assets while avoiding silly obligations for the sake of being mediocre, what's so bad about that? Also, The Process went on for 5 seasons, not a decade.
I like your takes. But I don't like this one. It's really tricky to compare stats across positions. Generally speaking PFs/Cs have higher shooting percentages than Gs because they generally take higher percentage shots. The average FG% for SGs* is 44.26% - CJ shoots 46.6%, putting him 2.34% above average. The average FG% for PFs* is 51.88% - Harris shoots 49.6%, putting him 2.28% below average. Perhaps CJ and Harris are fairly equal players. But I know I'd rather have a good SG than a good PF. A good SG will almost always net better results than a good PF - even a "better" PF. *Averages based on those who qualify according to ESPN.
From 2003-04 to 2016-2017 The 76ers made it to 41 wins twice. In 2010 they got to 41 wins and their following years were. 35 wins, 34 wins, 19 wins, 18 wins, 10 wins, and 28 wins. The Sam Hinkie "process" started in 2012 but besides just losing on purpose they were already bad for a long time before that. They also were not very competitive during that stretch the fact they beat the Blazers is more of a knock on the Blazers then anything... After Harden was traded, OKC has still made the playoffs and even got the WCF, even with KD leaving they were able to rebuild by being aggressive going after PG13. They didn't have to go trade WB and purposefully lose for 5 years to try to be good again. Philly has a great looking starting 5 no doubt, but they still got whooped pretty good in the playoffs last year, and we don't know what they'll do this year. I don't think Blazer fans would be all that enthusiastic about having to go through a stretch like that in hopes that hopefully a few of your lottery picks actually work out.
For those saying the 76ers process didn't work - who do you think is going to win more play-off games this season, Philly or Portland? For all their bad luck and mis-steps, their plan still worked better than Olshey's.
