Dirk has never gotten 5apg. If Pau wouldve taken those shots instead, he couldve averaged 25ppg. I agree with you Dirk is more offensivley developed, but you cant convince me that hes just as good or better than Pau on defense. Pau is a more well rounded player than Dirk, and like I said earlier, Dirk is in his prime, and Pau Gasol isnt as of right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Dec 30 2006, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dirk has never gotten 5apg. If Pau wouldve taken those shots instead, he couldve averaged 25ppg. I agree with you Dirk is more offensivley developed, but you cant convince me that hes just as good or better than Pau on defense. Pau is a more well rounded player than Dirk, and like I said earlier, Dirk is in his prime, and Pau Gasol isnt as of right now.</div>You keep saying this...but what makes you think Gasol isn't in his prime too?Besides that...Dirk has become a better passer, and a much better defender than he was several years ago...and he only keeps improving.So by that logic, even if Gasol is slightly behind him now...as much as Gasol might improve, I think Dirk will improve just as much.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Memphis Fan @ Dec 30 2006, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dirk has never gotten 5apg. If Pau wouldve taken those shots instead, he couldve averaged 25ppg. I agree with you Dirk is more offensivley developed, but you cant convince me that hes just as good or better than Pau on defense. Pau is a more well rounded player than Dirk, and like I said earlier, Dirk is in his prime, and Pau Gasol isnt as of right now.</div>Dirk hasn't avg 5 apg because he doesn't puss out in the crunch time and throw the ball away to his teammates to handle. Dirk is in his prime yes, but I think even a declining Dirk is going to be better than a prime Pau.AgainDirk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pau till they die.
I like that Dirk was first, he takes that easily, but I thought Diaw would have been higher, he's quite a nice player, but it is really competitive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Dec 28 2006, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow, that's a joke man. You think points and rebounds are the only things that matter in the NBA. You're mistaken. You need to watch some NBA games, man. AK does everything. He's a very good defender, rebounder, shot blocker, stealer; hell, even passer. He just came off an injury, so his ppg numbers should go up when he gets into a groove again.</div>No I dont, and Ill give you that he blocks shots (which did go down since last season btw), but hes not a lockdown defender type. And since I last posted, his numbers did go down in almost every category. I dont think he should be ahead of Parker in that category. Also, being good on defense only like you stated, shouldn't get you Number 3 on that list? Also you said, that I thought he wasnt a good defender. I never said he wasnt a good defender. But on the offensive side, there are many players on that team who are better than him. In fact, Andrei so far has averaged a career low in points, and despite his rookie year, has averaged a career low in rebounds as well. You CANNOT say that he is on top of his game. He is on the decline as far as I know, and has room for some major improvement in areas. Ill give you he is averaging a good 4 assists per game, but thats down from last year as well. I cannot see him getting a quadruple double like people say. C'mon on man, he is averaging 30+ minutes of play, and doing so little, how can you say he does everything?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jan 2 2007, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No I dont, and Ill give you that he blocks shots (which did go down since last season btw), but hes not a lockdown defender type. And since I last posted, his numbers did go down in almost every category. I dont think he should be ahead of Parker in that category. Also, being good on defense only like you stated, shouldn't get you Number 3 on that list? Also you said, that I thought he wasnt a good defender. I never said he wasnt a good defender. But on the offensive side, there are many players on that team who are better than him. In fact, Andrei so far has averaged a career low in points, and despite his rookie year, has averaged a career low in rebounds as well. You CANNOT say that he is on top of his game. He is on the decline as far as I know, and has room for some major improvement in areas. Ill give you he is averaging a good 4 assists per game, but thats down from last year as well. I cannot see him getting a quadruple double like people say. C'mon on man, he is averaging 30+ minutes of play, and doing so little, how can you say he does everything?</div>Yes, he is a lockdown defender. I don't think he would have been on the All Defensive first team if he wasnt a great defender..I'm giving him #3 because he is great at everything. He gives yo steals, blocks, assists, lockdown defense, and he can shoot the mid range, and score downlow.Andrei has struggled with injuries this year. That's why his numbers are down. That doesn't mean he is on the decline at all.