<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jan 1 2007, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think you are wrong. Some of those guys may average more assists, but that's because they play quite a bit more than TJ. TJ is an excellent playmaker, and he has some of the best court vision I've ever seen.BTW, he is 2nd behind Nash in AP48M.</div>No, it's not because they play more than them, I just firmly believe that they are better playmakers. T.J. Ford is an excellent playmaker, and I defended your case in another topic about that, but he is not in the top 5. I will give you top 10, but he is not top 5 (or top 8, in my book lol, considering I put 8 guys ahead of him). Sorry. We disagree on the subject.Also, Rajon Rondo got one assist in about a minute the other night. That's 48 assists per 48 minutes. WHO CARES? Stats are so incredibly overrated.
Okay, what's up with this recent Eric Snow bandwagoner sh*t.. Snow is definitely done as a playmaker. His Sixer days with AI in the backcourt are over. He shouldn't even be close to honorable mention.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Zards @ Jan 1 2007, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay, what's up with this recent Eric Snow bandwagoner sh*t.. Snow is definitely done as a playmaker. His Sixer days with AI in the backcourt are over. He shouldn't even be close to honorable mention.</div>Lol, Snow is not a great passer. He can pass the ball like any other player...lolThe only reason I want to keep Snow on the Cavaliers, is because of his D. He can shut down the star player and make them work for ever point they get. He can't shoot worth anything and he is starting to sit when the game is on the line even more. Mike Brown is starting to pi$$ me off a lot on how this season has gone, but I think Snow should be in when we need some D at the end of ball games.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 1 2007, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1) Nash2) Kidd3) Lebron4) Chris Paul5) Andre Miller6) Knight7) Wade8) Ridnour9) Billups10) Shaq</div>For a big man Shaq has always been decently good at passing out of double teams, but I do not believe he is a top 10 passer in the league, I don't even think he is a top 20 passer in the league. That is kind of mystery pick there, is there a reason you picked Shaq?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jan 1 2007, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For a big man Shaq has always been decently good at passing out of double teams, but I do not believe he is a top 10 passer in the league, I don't even think he is a top 20 passer in the league. That is kind of mystery pick there, is there a reason you picked Shaq?</div>If Shaq were a point guard (think 6'1" 210 pounds) he would be a 10+ assist guy per in my opinion. Since Shaq is the best passing big man ever I think he should be given top 10 at least.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 1 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Shaq were a point guard (think 6'1" 210 pounds) he would be a 10+ assist guy per in my opinion. Since Shaq is the best passing big man ever I think he should be given top 10 at least.</div>LOL, ok dude, I'm gonna let you have that one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Since Shaq is the best passing big man ever I think he should be given top 10 at least.</div>Just cause Shaq is the best passing big man doesn't mean he is top 10 in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (teeps11 @ Jan 1 2007, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just cause Shaq is the best passing big man doesn't mean he is top 10 in the NBA.</div>I think he deserves some credit. I mean I'm not just gonna list 10 point guards cause that wouldn't be fair. If you evaluate the posistions Shaq stands out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 1 2007, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Shaq were a point guard (think 6'1" 210 pounds) he would be a 10+ assist guy per in my opinion. Since Shaq is the best passing big man ever I think he should be given top 10 at least.</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Jan 1 2007, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'></div> :HAHAHA:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 1 2007, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think he deserves some credit. I mean I'm not just gonna list 10 point guards cause that wouldn't be fair. If you evaluate the posistions Shaq stands out.</div>By that logic, when we talk about best post players do you have to include Kobe because he's great at it for a shooting guard? And anyways, Shaq is by no means the best passing big man of all time. Trust me. I've watched Shaq play hundreds of times. He's a good passing big man but you can't honestly tell me he's better than any other post in history.
If Shaq was a point guard? No man... just no.He's a center, and does all his job in the post. I don't even know what to say about that.Tony put it well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jan 1 2007, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Shaq were a point guard (think 6'1" 210 pounds) he would be a 10+ assist guy per in my opinion. Since Shaq is the best passing big man ever I think he should be given top 10 at least.</div>And if Shaq were a point guard he would not be double and tripled team (which is basically the main reason he is considered "the best passing big man"), he would not be considered the most dominant big man ever, he wouldn't be able to single-handedly change the landscape of the league, and he damn sure would not have 4 championship rings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BigMo763 @ Jan 1 2007, 08:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And if Shaq were a point guard he would not be double and tripled team (which is basically the main reason he is considered "the best passing big man"), he would not be considered the most dominant big man ever, he wouldn't be able to single-handedly change the landscape of the league, and he damn sure would not have 4 championship rings.</div>Quite simply, he would not be Shaq. A lot of the reason Shaq is so great is because he's so damn big and so talented for someone that size. And a lot of the reason he's able to get away with being so lazy is because of those physical gifts he was given. If he were a foot shorter and 125 pounds lighter with the same work ethic he wouldn't anything special. But beyond that he'd be a COMPLETELY different player, he'd be a completely different person. Everything about him would be different.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lakaboy42 @ Jan 2 2007, 02:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Quite simply, he would not be Shaq. A lot of the reason Shaq is so great is because he's so damn big and so talented for someone that size. And a lot of the reason he's able to get away with being so lazy is because of those physical gifts he was given. If he were a foot shorter and 125 pounds lighter with the same work ethic he wouldn't anything special. But beyond that he'd be a COMPLETELY different player, he'd be a completely different person. Everything about him would be different.</div>I was going to say the same thing. I think he'd be pretty terrible if he were that size. He's mostly where he is because of genetics.I didn't post it because it just felt dumb replying to Pacersfan.