<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Nov 9 2006, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only reason he got that close is because the east was that weak. No way would he ever reach the finals if he was in the west. Also having one of the best defensive centers of all-time and the perfect role player to Iverson's offense would I call that weak. Yeah not as good as Dirk's but it's obvious Dirk's team would kill the sixers team that went to the finals.</div>Yes, East was weak. But in Finals Dirk CHOKED, while AI played amazing ball and won a game against the Lakers, who were unbeaten up until that point. Dirk had better role players than Wade, and had way more production out of them in Finals. He didn't come to play, and was outplayed by Wade. AI did EVERYTHING he could against a FAR better team than the Sixers and a better team than the 06 Heat, and he played GREAT, but they lost.
KG isn't top 3 material. He has the mentality of a loser. His team sucks. He has no idea what it means to take over a game.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Melo061 @ Nov 10 2006, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>KG isn't top 3 material. He has the mentality of a loser. His team sucks. He has no idea what it means to take over a game.</div>Exactly sometimes he is to un-selfish and needs to take over.Mchale has done the oppostie things that Garnett recommened on whats best for the team. He said to move Wally he moves him 4 years later. He said to keep Cassell he moves him in the off-season. Garnett needs to take over.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mavsfan1000 @ Nov 9 2006, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only reason he got that close is because the east was that weak. No way would he ever reach the finals if he was in the west. Also having one of the best defensive centers of all-time and the perfect role player to Iverson's offense would I call that weak. Yeah not as good as Dirk's but it's obvious Dirk's team would kill the sixers team that went to the finals.</div>1 good defensive center (who didn't do all that well by the way. Shaq averaged over 30 ppg and 13 rpg if I remember correctly), and a good sixth man does NOT qualify as a good team. that team was basically trash without Iverson. Last year's Dallas team was EXTREMELY talented. jason terry (who by the way played much better than dirk in the finals against the heat), josh howard, marquis daniels, erick dampier, desagana diop, jerry stackhouse, devin harris. that's a LOT more than dikembe mutumbo and aaron mckie.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xnxbxax @ Nov 11 2006, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Lebron2.Wade3.Kobe4. Duncan5. nash</div>Nash isn't a top 5 player. I don't care if he has 2 mvp's. He simply isn't top 5.
How dosen't he ?"He can do everything if not more than wade and other top superstars in the league, haven't u seen Carter play before ? lolIm putting him in my top 5 becuase that my oponion in which im right but I wouldn't complain if he was in the top 10 but anything below that then I don't think you know what carter does as a player and for his team.
You can put whover you want in the top 5. I just think Carter relies too much on outside jumpers and it hurts the team when he's off. Wade gets to the basket all the time plus he has developed a great midrange shot to go along with that. Plus Carter is not a great defender.
Hmm yeah I kind of agree with you there, Carter dosen't take the best shots and isnt the best defender out there but I think what Vince Carter has over Wade would be is when Carter is hitting his shots then sometimes it seems near imposible to stop him.
I don't know about that. Wade really just was on fire in game 3 vs. Dallas in the last 5 minutes of that game. Plus he did the same against Detroit last year which really turned Miami's season around and they started getting confidence.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Amare320 @ Nov 10 2006, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How dosen't he ?"He can do everything if not more than wade and other top superstars in the league, haven't u seen Carter play before ? lolIm putting him in my top 5 becuase that my oponion in which im right but I wouldn't complain if he was in the top 10 but anything below that then I don't think you know what carter does as a player and for his team.</div>http://www.bball-world.net/forum/index.php...topic=15203&hl=I'm pretty sure that there is a reason only 2 people in that thread even had him in the top 15 and none of our smartest posters did. Putting Carter 5th in the league is a joke. Tell me how he is better than players like Kevin Garnett, Allen Iverson, Gilbert Arenas, Paul Pierce, Steve Nash, Shawn Marion, Yao Ming, Shaquille O'Neal, Chris Bosh, Tracy McGrady, Elton Brand, etc.And give another reason other than he can do everything because first off that isn't true since he's nothing special on defense and also there is way more players in this leageu who can do everything that you didn't list.
okay I was wrong and I can't discus it right now cause I got a bball game lolYeh I shouldn't of put Vince Carter so high but you have got to admit that his offensive game is a bit underrated if you look past all those dunks.Top 15 yes. Can't argue with that.but top 5 hmm mabye not .. I did look past quite a bit of players lolanyways im out, p'ce
Really? I can name 15 players better than him. Here's 15 in no particular orderKobe BryantLebron JamesAllen IversonDirk NowitzkiKevin GarnettTim DuncanGilbert ArenasTracy McGradyShawn MarionShaquille O'NealSteve NashChris PaulPaul PierceshYao MingElton BrandSo yeah Carter not being in the top 15 is very arguable.
Vince Carter is better than Shaq, Arenas & Tracy Mcgrady right now and a couple more of them if you look closely, as I said Vince Carter is underrated or you may just not like this guy, the guy who was thought to be the next Michael Jordan.Did I mention that he is averaging 28.7ppg, 6.5rpg, 4apg - Great Stats!also Vince Carter is one of the fastest players to reach 13 thousand points.He's defently top 15, but you may think he's not aswell he might not be to so I could be wrong.. what do other people think about this?
