Toronto is a good example of why we should stay the course

Or fourth coach if you include Don Nelson.

 

Not sure? Both rosters are guard driven, so I'm not sure either team has what the other needs?

 

I was saying Mark Jackson was holding an otherwise solid lineup back. Obviously there's more to it than that, like not playing David "What's Defense?" Lee 2400 minutes.

 

Yes, but last season we got beat by the world champions and a team that demolished all teams in their way. We just happened to play them in the first round.

 

This is why that con man Neil Olshey pisses me off so much... he uses the 3rd seed as a major accomplishment and says this team is making progress, then in the same sentence will say we were only one game better than the 6th seed Pelicans as an excuse for the Blazers miserable playoff performance...

 

I responded in kind.
Yes that is the way it read. This is not just about coaching. @Strenuus
But if you would like to make it about that my comment stands. GS has had 4 coaches in 7 years. They made a number of changes at the coaching level.
Then they also traded Ellis but in no way can Ellis be compared to Lillard or CJ in my opinion.

 

Mark Jackson is only one of 4 coaches they had in 7 years. Also all he had was Lee to work with at that time. I doubt Stotts would play Aminu as much if he had Green. You have to make due with who you have to play.

 

Golden State didn't let anything "bake."

Drafted Curry in 2009.

Drafted Klay in 2011.

Drafted Draymond in 2012.

Won a championship in 2014-2015.

How is this comparable to our team? By Steph's sixth year he was a champion.

Drafted Dame in 2012.

Drafted CJ in 2013.

Traded for Nurk in 2017.

Swept out of the first round in 2018.

By Dame's sixth year he was swept out of the first round by the 6th seed. We have a shittier core. You let the cake bake when you have a great core. We simply do not. If anything, Golden State did not let the cake bake. They traded Monta after his second season with Steph. He was averaging 24 ppg for Golden State and they traded him. He was 25 years old, averaging 24 ppg, and they dumped his ass. Who does Monta sound like? A 6'3 shooting guard who can't guard anyone and is a ball hog? Sounds vaguely familiar.

They didn't let the cake bake. They fired their coach.

"On June 6, 2011, Jackson was hired as head coach of the Golden State Warriors. He was the first head coach hired by new owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber. After inheriting a team that had made the playoffs just once in the previous 17 years, Jackson promised to turn the Warriors into a good defensive team and playoff contender.[5] However, he struggled to a 23–43 record in his first year during the lockout-shortened 2011–12 season as the team suffered several injuries to key players while adjusting to a new system. In the 2012–13 season, however, with strong plays from Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson, Jackson led the Warriors to a 47–35 record and a sixth place seeding in the Western Conference. It was the first time the Warriors had made the playoffs since the 2006–07 season. The Warriors defeated the Denver Nuggets 4–2 in the first round of NBA Playoffs, but lost to the San Antonio Spurs 4–2 in the Conference Semifinals.[6]

Originally signed under a four-year, $8 million contract, Jackson earned two more years guaranteed on his contract in 2013, thus putting him under contract through 2014–15.[7] The following season, the Warriors improved to 51–31, the team's first season with 50 or more wins since 1993–94.[8] They reached the playoffs in consecutive seasons for the first time since 1992. However, the Warriors lost the first round of the playoffs to the Los Angeles Clippers in seven games. On May 6, 2014, Jackson was removed as head coach of the Warriors. The Warriors front office stated the team was better than when Jackson first arrived, but felt a different coach was needed for the Warriors to win an NBA championship.[5][9] The following season, head coach Steve Kerr's Warriors won the Bay Area team's first NBA title in 40 years."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Jackson_(basketball)

We are not the Warriors.

 

What's your excuse this year?

 

Tl/Dr most of it.

You lost me at the comparison to GSW. I never once compared us to them. You kinda took that and ram with it. I'm simply saying they baked. They drafted and farmed their draftees.

 

So, the net result of this thread is that there is no universal agreement on
what "Let it Bake" even means. Regardless of that fact, many posters know
they don't like it.... whatever it is.

 

You can't use a team as an example of letting it bake, and then say you're not comparing us to them. You are.

And the best part is that they they didn't bake. They did the opposite of bake. They made trades.

They traded Monta.

They traded for Iggy.

They fired their coach.

They cleared half their roster so they could sign Durant.

They don't sit still. They make changes. If they had "let it bake," they'd still have Monta.

 

Hey guys, Prince Harry is marrying a hot TV star from America.

We should all marry hot TV stars from America as well!

But I'm not comparing us to Prince Harry. I'm just saying we should all marry hot TV stars....

 

We let Matthews walk.
We traded Batum.
We RoLo walk.
We signed ET.
We fired a coach, too.
We let our SG go.

So, I guess we haven't let it bake, either. Same with Toronto.

 

And you have to continue to make moves until you find a combination that will work. Maybe if LMA hadn't walked we'd be in a different position right now, but he did. Letting Wes and Rolo walk was a byproduct of that.

Are you really bringing up McMillan as an example though? He never even coached Dame. That's not even part of this generation of Blazers.

 

No, I was referring to our Big man coach.

 

He was fired for leaking information to the media..... and firing a big man coach is not the same thing as firing the head coach. Come on maaaaaaaaan.

 

I already married a "Hot TV Star".

 

What's it like being married to Kingspeed?