Toronto Raptors Dame trade ideas and rumors

I think if Indiana likes him enough they should be willing to give up McConnell who would go to Phoenix with Nurk and Thad Young for Ayton and Jarace Walker. I know everyone has to like Walker a lot but OG fits what Indy is doing right now and if they like him enough he should be worth that package. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part though because I'm pretty high on Walker's potential.

 

I dont think they would let Walker go.

 

Honestly I like Walker so much that I would take him and McConnell who would be routed to Phoenix as part of what we send to acquire Ayton. If we could extract more picks I'd be ecstatic.

 

I understand your reluctance, but as you noted, we just gambled on Grant. Everyone is pretty sure they had a wink wink deal agreed to prior to the trade. I am sure they can do the same with OG. OG is actually perfect for what Portland needs. Defends, shoots, perfect.

 

Do you just go for picks picks picks?

Take on Hield and try to flip him for another pick?

 

Add a couple of firsts to the Blazers and I’d do it. It leaves the team with solid starters at every position, plenty of youth to build on, and decent depth. If Scoot is as good as advertised, and if Shaedon shows that the end of last season wasn’t a fluke, that’s a team that would be fun to watch and could make the play-ins.

 

Come on, you think you could get Walker (who was pick #8) and a "fuck ton" of picks for OG? LOL Get walker for OG and be happy!

 

No, my comparison was dead on, and you confirmed it. Re-read my post you quoted. Nothing but Dame superlatives in it.

 

Rumors were that there were offers of multiple picks for OG before the trade deadline. I don't know what his value is right now.

 

I will concede this point. That has always been in the back of my mind. Memphis wanted him badly. Much of why I am so high on him.

 

A ridiculous comparison by Le Batard. I was just agreeing with what you said.

 

I don't think it would have changed.

 

Memphis has picks... but that roster doesn't appeal much to me.

 

Sorry, I didn't consider that. Thanks for clarifying.

 

Like Dame had

 

Masai has an inflated sense of value for his players. Recall he apparently wanted Shaedon/Hart/Nas for OG the year prior. He also floated an asking price of 3 firsts for him last deadline.

If that were truly his value, deal woulda been done.

 

There was rumors that Memphis offered a shit ton of picks for OG at the deadline. Can't find anything concrete on how many exactly. One rumor was that they offered four. I doubt that. But all the reports say "multiple picks."

 

This might have been a pre-Draft workout from way back in the day.....but seems timely now.

 

it could be pretty damn sad if OG is the main asset Portland gets while all the other assets are minor

You outlined the positives. But there are other ways to view him as the centerpiece than that limited context:

* Donovan Mitchell was traded for Lauri Markannen, Colin Sexton, Ochai Agbaji, three unprotected first round picks, an unprotected swap, and a conditional swap

* Kevin Durant was traded for Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, four unprotected 1st round picks; an unprotected swap, and two 2nd round picks

* OKC traded PG13 for SGA, Gallinari, four unprotected first round picks, and two swaps

* Gobert was traded for Walter Kessler , Jared Vanderbilt, Malik Beasely, Patrick Beverly, three unprotected 1sts, a top-5 protected swap, and a conditional swap

* Anunoby is on an expiring contract meaning he can walk next summer, meaning his value is significantly less than a 'normal' borderline all-NBA defender who shoots the 3 well.

* Anunoby has a career PER of 13.2 when the NBA average is 15.0. He has a career FTRate of .179 which is not much better than CJ's career rate; OG doesn't get to the line. He has a career rebound rate of 8.3%. Mo Harkless was an average rebounder and his rate was 8.6%. OG was 107th out of 190 qualified NBA players in rebound rate last year at 7.9%. Dame was at 7.6%. And he was 153rd out of 190 in assist rate. OG's career winshare/48 is .102 when the NBA average is .100. His career BPM is 0.2 when the NBA average is 0.0

now, maybe a new team and a new role will see his game expand. That happens sometimes. But he is a 25 year old veteran who will be entering his 7th season. His upside is likely limited

again, he'll only be a part of the return so if he is coming to Portland we'll need to see what else is coming with him to gauge the trade. But if there isn't much else (like Boucher, Young & a lottery-protected first 5 years from now), yeah, that would be sad

 

Which had success, and then that team got dismantled and Dame's teams struggled to reach those heights.