I can understand the point about the 8 year old son, but come on...let's be realistic. Look at other shows that are on at 9:00pm EST/8:00pm CST. You can turn on the TV at any time and catch a CSI show or a Law & Order show and you've got bad language, gratuitous violence and in the case of NYPD Blue...Man Ass. Sure the MNF thing was suggestive, but it's not like they showed anything. I personally think that violence on TV is much worse than sex. At least sex prompts kids to ask questions. Maybe it will cut down on the number of pregnant 12 and 13 year olds that are becoming more and more common all the time.
The shots of the cheerleaders and beer/viagra commercial are more revealing and more suggestive than that skit
Of course we're the only country that treats nudity like it's a sin. For a free country, sometimes you have to wonder where our values really are. If nudity wasn't so banned in America, our youth wouldn't find it to be such a big deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>I can understand the point about the 8 year old son, but come on...let's be realistic. Look at other shows that are on at 9:00pm EST/8:00pm CST. You can turn on the TV at any time and catch a CSI show or a Law & Order show and you've got bad language, gratuitous violence and in the case of NYPD Blue...Man Ass. Sure the MNF thing was suggestive, but it's not like they showed anything. I personally think that violence on TV is much worse than sex. At least sex prompts kids to ask questions. Maybe it will cut down on the number of pregnant 12 and 13 year olds that are becoming more and more common all the time.</div> Come on. You can't rationalize it that much. Obviously I don't let my kids watch a show like NYPD Blue. If you're going to sell MNF with sex fine, but then its another show we have to mark off the kids list. But don't spring that kind of skit out of nowhere and expect no bad reaction. Turn on a TV anytime and see that? You're probably right...kids nowadays have Cinemax, HBO, etc. and see that anytime of the day. Does that mean man ass is OK on Sesame Street now? Just because some shows have actors who pretend to be taking drugs doesn't mean I want Michael Irvin in a skit pretending to snorting coke lines quickly so he can watch his old team play. And as for the 12 and 13 year old pregnancies, if I have to rely on TO and Nicolette Sheridan to help me teach sex ed, I'm in a lot more trouble than I though. Laughing at a skit of two people casually meeting in a locker room to have sex like that probably isn't the best set up anyway. I wonder why these pregnancies are "becoming more and more common all the time"..... Sure they didn't show anything, but it was suggestive. Sex and football has always been somewhat linked....look at the cheerleaders. I just think the line was moved a little the wrong way. For what its worth, I agree on the violence comment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Steelerfan_2004)</div><div class='quotemain'>Of course we're the only country that treats nudity like it's a sin. For a free country, sometimes you have to wonder where our values really are. If nudity wasn't so banned in America, our youth wouldn't find it to be such a big deal.</div> There's a certain amount of reason there....but on the other hand, the networks wouldn't put it into a skit like that because it wouldn't have the same effect.
I agree with the "right" here. There's a time and a place and this wasn't it. There wouldn't have been an apology issued either if it wasn't blatantly wrong or stupid. I just think it's sad that we are oversensitive to sexual conotations and nudity. Not like it's going to ever change here, but I think kids would react differently to it if we didn't treat it like such a big deal.
Here's the transcript if anyone missed it... I guess it was a lot more suggestive with the sound on. *laughs* That will teach me to defend something after seeing it and not hearing it... Courtesy of ABC: TO: Hey. NS: Hey there, Terrell. TO: What are you doing here? NS: My house burned down and I needed to take a long hot shower (she says seductively). So where are you off to looking so pretty? TO: Baby, it's "Monday Night Football," game starts in 10 minutes. NS: Oh you and your little games...I've got a game we can play (again seductively). TO: Hey, this is major. We've got Parcells and the Cowboys...and Donovan needs me. NS: What about my needs? What about Edie? TO: Will you stop it...Just tell me what's buried under that pool. NS: You know I can't tell you that. TO: Then I've got a game to play. NS: Terrell, wait...(drops towel) TOSmiling) Aww, hell, the team's going to have to win without me. (She jumps in his arms) - cut to "Desperate Housewives" co-stars Felicity Huffman and Teri Hatcher watching T.O. and N.S. on TV. TH: Oh my god, who watches this trash; sex, lies, deception? FH: And that woman...She's just so...desperate. TH: I know what we should watch. (She picks up remote and changes channel to "MNF.") TH and FH together: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack)</div><div class='quotemain'>Here's the transcript if anyone missed it... I guess it was a lot more suggestive with the sound on. *laughs* That will teach me to defend something after seeing it and not hearing it... Courtesy of ABC: TO: Hey. NS: Hey there, Terrell. TO: What are you doing here? NS: My house burned down and I needed to take a long hot shower (she says seductively). So where are you off to looking so pretty? TO: Baby, it's "Monday Night Football," game starts in 10 minutes. NS: Oh you and your little games...I've got a game we can play (again seductively). TO: Hey, this is major. We've got Parcells and the Cowboys...and Donovan needs me. NS: What about my needs? What about Edie? TO: Will you stop it...Just tell me what's buried under that pool. NS: You know I can't tell you that. TO: Then I've got a game to play. NS: Terrell, wait...(drops towel) TOSmiling) Aww, hell, the team's going to have to win without me. (She jumps in his arms) - cut to "Desperate Housewives" co-stars Felicity Huffman and Teri Hatcher watching T.O. and N.S. on TV. TH: Oh my god, who watches this trash; sex, lies, deception? FH: And that woman...She's just so...desperate. TH: I know what we should watch. (She picks up remote and changes channel to "MNF.") TH and FH together: ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!</div> Sounds funny to me
Oh, I still think it's funny... But I guess I didn't take into account the number of kids that watch MNF. Cowboy71 did a pretty good job of bitch slapping me into submission on that particular point.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1)</div><div class='quotemain'>as a kid well ,16 we hear and see on mTV AND ALL TTHAT GARBBAGE ALOT WORSE</div> And that makes it OK? Cowboy71 doesn't need to be bitch slapping anyone . I didn't wake up Tuesday morning by calling and complaining to ABC. I can just see why some people would think it was inappropriate and not needed. I don't really blame TO that much. I would bet most guys are criticizing TO more for the fact that it took him so long to agree to her advances I will admit that it would have made a great SNL skit or something like that tho. As for my kid, I probably have more explaining to do with the violence that happened after that. The infliction on the Dallas D should have been rated R. Or rather the performance of the Cowboys be considered obsene. My only hope is that Fox puts out a disclaimer before the next Dallas game.
Tony Dungy is now saying that he was offended because of the "racial issue." My...how 1950's of him! WTF?
An interesting article about the "racial aspect" of the skit: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writ...ex.html?cnn=yes The guy claims, and probably rightly so, that if Nicollette Sheridan were jumping into Peyton Manning's arms, people wouldn't still be talking about it. He's probably right. Another sign America needs to grow up.
I really don't think that's it at all. If that was such a big issue, then last night's episode of LAX would be the cause of all sorts of controversy as it had the exact same thing. Why do we always make things into a race issue whenever there is controversy like this? People didn't like the spot because they thought it was indecent for their kids to see. How does that relate to race?
I agree that it shouldn't come down to or be about race. I never even thought about it that way until Tony Dungy started shooting his mouth off.
Dungy didnt mean the critisism of TO was racist or that a white player would have gotten away with it, he meant the depiction of a black man as an oversexed maniac that is willing to sell out his friends for some action with a blond hair blue eyed white chick is racist imagery, and hes likely right about that....he was more saying that TO should be ashamed for allowing ABC to stereotype him....
Oh, come on. I'd have sold out my team to bang Nicollette Sheridan. Why wouldn't ya? Bottom line...it was a joke! Fiction!!!!!
I think the towel skit was def. not as big of a deal it was made out to be. As far as the skit Utah was talking bout with Mcnabb and owens, That was funny. The media blew the incident w/ donovan and terell against the steelers WAY out of proportion. It was funny they put it right in the media's face.
