Trade Bayless for top pick?

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  1. STOMP

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    I hope management also takes a good look at Brandon Jennings as dude really impressed me at the McD's game. Very fast/athletic and much more of a PG then Bayless. Obviously a HS All Star game isn't the end all, but dude looked legit

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  2. andalusian

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    Have not seen him at all - so I can not really offer an educated opinion.
     
  3. theprunetang

    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    I know next to nothing about any of the members of this year's draft class (thank god). It was nice to not have to pay attention to all of that in order to get excited.

    Given that, I don't think Bayless has much trade value right now. So, you kind of have to keep him and just hope he does have something down the line. I don't see us getting a valuable piece for him at this point. He did next to nothing this season and showed that he still needs to develop PG skills and a jumpshot.
     
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    I would rather have Bayless than Rubio..there I said it
     
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    I think we should lure him in Phoenix's direction, they know his potential down there and need a positive local story desperately after how poor perception is there right now.

    The problem is the only player from there I would want is Nash, and we know he's a more than controversial figure in here.
     
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    I recommend you guys watch Gunnin for that #1 spot..Bayless won co-mvp of that Elite 24 game and his jumper was butter.
    It is hard to play well when you are on a short leash and always looking over your shoulder. When Blake went out, Jerryd was dynamite.....his game against the Nets showed flashes.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We need a vet. I say let Bayless develop and bring in Andre Miller or Jason Kidd. Bayless has all the tools we need. He's big, he's strong, and he's quick. He just needs time. The guy is still a kid. Let him develop. In a league of quick point guards, Bayless has all the tools to be a defensive stopper.
     
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    I know I'm a minority but I'm not that high on Bayless. I had hopes for him but what I saw during the season (with a few exceptions) just didn't excite me. He can penetrate but can't finish very well and his court vision/passing is suspect. I think he's better and has more upside than Jack, but that is who he reminds me of. Someone with a good work ethic but who isn't really a PG but an undersized SG. There are rare cases where someone can change and be highly successful (see Billups) but overall, it is not a recipe for great success.

    If a decent offer came, I'd trade him and not look back. That said, I'm not a Sergio fan either - just like Bayless, he showed occasional flashes of "if only he could do that on a consistent basis" but his defense is nil, shooting suspect but he does have pretty good court vision.

    Ideally, I'd like a good veteran PG (Miller, Bibby, Kidd) that has a few decent years left paired with a legitimate young PG (not a PG wannabe). I like Blake but view him as an good backup PG - someone who generally won't win you a game due to their outstanding play, but also someone who generally won't lose you a game due to their poor play. Solid if unexciting.

    Now, to the question at hand, trade Bayless for a top pick? If we can get a high quality top pick that fits a need (good backup PF, PG prospect), I'm all for it, otherwise, we need "seasoned" not someone who needs to be seasoned.

    Gramps...
     
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    No. This draft is unbelievably weak.

    I do like Stephen Curry and Dejuan Blair, though.
     
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    I don't think you'd get a 1st round pick for him alone, so I'd keep him as a 4th SG until we could get a very solid PF for him.
     
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    Let's trade everyone except Roy and LA and all our draft picks to get every Spanish player in the league
     
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    [video=youtube;xSBLKrZCkeU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSBLKrZCkeU[/video]

    People, this kid is 18! Imagine how good he'd be with some seasoning.
     
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    Hmm. Oden, Bayless, Batum, Outlaw, Przybilla, Webster and Blake for Pau Gasol, Jose Calderon, Marc Gasol? Am I missing a Spanish player in the NBA? I assume you didn't mean to trade the Spanish players we already have.

    PG: Calderon / Rodriguez
    SG: Roy / Fernandez
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    PF: LaMarcus Aldridge / Marc Gasol
    C: Pau Gasol

    No thanks. The lack of a small forward might be a problem. If Portland went small, with Roy and Rudy in the starting lineup, it would be a pretty good team, if the starters could go 48 minutes every night.
     
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    None. We need to keep Bayless because he is going to be a perfect fit next to Roy and there is only a couple players in this draft I would want more then Bayless.

    If we are going to trade Bayless which I thionk is a big mistake it has to be for a veteran PG.
     
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    :lol: that would probably get a good laugh from the team with the #2 pick. My guess is 1... if they are going to trade Rubio it will be because they already have a good PG and can move down... 2. If they have a PG already they don't need Bayless.

    I think Rudy would have to be thrown in to make them consider it, along with taking back a bad contract. We'd also have to try and get another 1st rounder with our TE and trade that as well as a future 1st. I doubt that would get it done though.

    Bayless, Outlaw, Rudy, Martell, two 1sts (one aquired from the TE), future 1st(s), cash, and take back a large bad contract (probably more than just 1 to keep their roster under the limit and ours over if we are going to trade 4 players). IDK... i'd do it, but it probably wouldn't work. But that helps us consolidate and get Rubio... Rubio/Blake PG rotation would be nice.

    Anyway, IDK about Bayless. Of course my preference would be to keep him and for him to flourish as our PG for the next 10 years, but things don't happen the way i want them to. There are plenty of other youngish PGs i'd rather have then Bayless, and if we get one of them i'd be fine dealing him. If we are going after a vet then we should probably keep Bayless as the backup and trade Blake and of course Sergio.

    Anyway, these are my dream (top 12) PGs currently in the NBA... I'd take any of them tbh. (more will probably be added after draft day)

    in order.

    As for the question, i'd trade Bayless in a package for a good PG (preferably youngish but Parker and Billups are exceptions) or i'd trade him for Rubio or Jennings in this draft. I'm very intrigued with Maynor at the moment, and Patty Mills is pretty tight.
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    damn you and your logic.. :sigh:
     
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    There is a certain irony here.

    Bayless couldn't get off the bench for a NBA play-off team. Jennings couldn't get off the bench in Europe. Outside of die-hard Blazer fans, Bayless has lost his luster. Jennings is still considered a high lotto pick.

    Bayless is still more likely to have a good NBA career than Jennings, but no NBA team would trade Jennings for him straight up. :crazy:
     

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