Trade Dame or CJ?

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  1. blue9

    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    Philly's pain also came with hope. Blazers pain is just pain.
     
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    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that’s the only path forward out of mediocrity is to trade CJ... 2 undersized gaurds that both need the ball in their hands as the centerpiece of offense and don’t play great defense will never work
     
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    It didn't have hope until they drafted Simmons (while stashing Embiid).
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Philly's circumstance just reinforces everything I advocated several years ago when I thought it would have been best to do a complete blow-it-up rebuild. They endured enormous pain, but they really did "commit to the bit" so to speak. There was no guarantee they were going to get potential future hall-of-famers, or that it would come together, but now their future looks pretty damned bright.

    The thing for me though is that if you're going to really tank, then don't half-ass it; go balls deep and endure as much organizational pain as you can possibly endure without driving all of your fans away.
     
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    There's always hope with the draft. It gives the fans year-round entertainment - the off-season is just as (probably more!) entertaining than the regular season. Low draft picks suck most of the excitement out of summer. With a high pick the build-up to the Draft is 10x better than the build-up to the Trade Deadline.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    You can tell by the language and the upper case characters that this person has limited experience expressing himself.

    Now, to the drivel about needing a superstar, OMG, there is never a better time than now to trade Lillard and/or CJ. I mean, their value will never be higher. And do you know why their value is so high?
     
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  7. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Where were all these threads/posters when the team was winning 13 in a row????

    Fucking assholes. Nobody goes undefeated. Get the fuck over it.

    BNM
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Is a good draft pick better than a good spot in the playoffs?
     
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    Undefeated? Who's arguing that - we were merely asking for a first round home playoff game victory. Pardon us for our unrealistic expectations.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    It's called Fair Weather Fans. They jump off the bandwagon whenever the wind blows the wrong way.

    However, mark my words, a few wins and they'll be back.
     
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    Sometimes.
     
  12. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Yes, because the counter plan we need a FUCKING SUPERSTAR is so much more realistic.

    BNM
     
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    blue9 Well-Known Member

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    You're too new to be calling anyone here fair weather fans.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    The "member" who started this thread created a new account just to come here and stir the shit. New account and hasn't been back since. That's not a fair weather fan, that's a troll.

    BNM
     
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    There is a big difference between being a fair weather fan and wanting players/coach/GM held accountable when they are not doing their job... are you just happy we have a team in Portland? I mean, don’t you want more from the product when you spend 20k+ per year on your season tickets... are you happy being mediocre?
     
  16. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Being 3rd seed in the West and having the 7th best record in the league is not being mediocre.

    Yep, we're down 0-2 in the series and that sucks. Can we get better? Of course we can, and we have. We won 8 more games this season than last. HOU and GSW didn't become contenders overnight. It takes time. Our defense was vastly improved this season and we were the 2nd youngest team in the league. Wanting to trade one, or both, of our two best players and fire the GM and coach seems like a knee jerk reaction to losing two playoff games in a row.

    Am I happy being mediocre? No, that's a strawman. It assumes we are an average team. We are not. We are better than average and improving. Which would you rather be, a 49-win 3rd seed, or a 41-win 8th seed? We improved by 8 wins and 5 seeds without trading either of our best players or firing anyone. We are headed in the right direction but we still have a ways to go.

    Sure, it would be great to have a LeBron, or even a Paul George or a Kawhi Leonard walk through that door, but this is a small market team with limited appeal to attract players to come here. We are lucky to have a player as talented as Damian Lillard who actually wants to play here. Trading him would be beyond stupid. Even suggesting it is asinine.

    BNM
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I'm not new. I've been in and out of here for the last ten years.

    Are you saying I have no right to an opinion? 'Cause that would stink.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He's been "here" more than 4 years longer than you. Perhaps it is you who is too new here to be telling others what they can, and cannot, do.

    BNM
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I spend a lot more than that for my tickets. A lot more.

    I've been a Portlander for virtually all my life. Okay, I moved here when I was 8 mos. old. I guess I just love the place where I grew up to the point that I will always support my team. I think that's pretty much the definition of a fan.

    I'll bet you don't ever hear any of the Blazers say we should can the coach or get a new owner or get a new GM or get rid of our best players. Nope, they pretty much support the team, and that's what I'm gonna do.

    I've seen fair weather fans in a lot of sports so I can spot one when I see one.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Nice catch.
     
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