Trade Ideas & sh*t

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  1. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Portland TPE to NYK for Courtney Lee. Lee is an older, cheaper version of Allen Crabbe, but with defense.

    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Shabazz Napier + Pat Connaughton to NYK for Kyle O'Quinn. Knicks get a young, but experienced PG and can decline Patty Baseball's non-guaranteed contract to save money. POR gets a veteran back up center who is a great rebounder, elite rim protector, underrated passer who can score inside and has a solid mid range game. He's cheap and would be a one year transitional piece while Biggie and Collins learn the ropes.

    BNM
     
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    Strenuus Well-Known Member

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    LOL. LOL. LOL.
     
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    H.C. Well-Known Member

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    Pending on picks Phoenix gets.

    I think the only hold up for this trade would be Henson. I think Milwaukee would want to get rid of Monroe in this trade instead of Henson.
    Does that stop the Cavs from doing it? idk.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    If I'm the Bucks I say no
     
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  7. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Bartón had a down year last season but the year before he was robbed of the 6th man of the year award and looked like a 6'6" Patty Mills - a capable passer who scores in bunches. His numbers that year (15ppg/6rpg/2apg) are nothing to scoff at.

     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I don't think Milwaukee would do it. They don't need Kyrie. Middleton and Parker are a lot to give up for a guy that would really be second banana to Giannis.
     
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    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Will should go to the Nets or Knicks and play in the east for a change.
     
  11. boredinsalem

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    If the Houston/NY trade ever gets off the ground the one team I could see taking Ryan Anderson is Orlando (one of the very worst 3 point shooting squads last year). It think it'd be worthwhile to give up Harkless/Leonard for Bismarck Biyombo personally. I fully acknowledge that he is vastly overpaid and a limited player, but I think this team could use his relentless energy (supercharged Ed Davis), he's supposed to be a great teammate, and he has the ability to really get under the opposing team's skin, which we could use. Also, he sets nasty screens. Overall, I'd just like us to keep a real physical guy out there when Nurk's on the bench.

    Also, I think that he would provide some very helpful insurance with Nurkic with regard to injuries, fouls, and contract negotiations. Hard to justify paying a guy $17M who is going to sit on the bench for all but 18 mpg, but if it let Nurkic play with reckless abandon that'd be worth it IMO. I don't think it would be impossible for the two to play together in short stretches either as Biyombo can defend 4s (stretch or not) and Nurkic can play high post for a two man game.

    http://www.tsn.ca/raptors-biyombo-isn-t-in-the-bizness-of-making-friends-1.494164

    that article gives an overview of what I think he could bring to our team.

    Biyombo to Portland
    Harkless/Leonard to NY Knicks
    Carmelo to Houston
    Ryan Anderson to Orlando (and a pick or something from Houston)
     
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    The other flawed piece that I think could be helpful for us is Iman Shumpert. He had a lot of value earlier in his career, and isn't being utilized in the iso heavy Cleveland offense at all. He's not a PG, but may be a much valuable player in Stotts' flow offense. We could use the defense/athleticism in our backcourt and he'd be an nice 3rd guard for us IMO.

    Cleveland definitely looks to be making some moves and he's been rumored to be on the way out for a while. They could use more defenders with some size too. If we got someone like Biyombo then Aminu would surely be available. I would think Aminu/Napier for Shumpert may be a good fit for both teams, as Aminu could take the tougher defensive assignment away from Lebron and let him roam a little bit when they were on the floor together (unleashing Olympic defensive god Lebron).

    If we made both of thus moves our rotation would look like this, and I think we'd add a whole lot of energy and athleticism:

    Lillard
    McCollum/Shumpert
    Turner
    Vonleh/Swanigan
    Nurkic/Biyombo

    Probably need to swap Ed for a 3, unless we believed in Connoughton and/or Layman.
     
  13. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Yeah, but keep in mind 3 things:
    1.) Brogdon is more of a 2 then a 1. Trading Middleton for Kyrie slides Brogdon to SG.
    2.) Jabari Parker is very injury prone.
    3.) It clears cap space for Cousins or Jordan.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Why? Monroe has 1 year, $17M remaining and Henson has 3 years, $33M remaining.
     
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    idk. It just seems like to me Milwaukee has had Monroe on the block since they signed him.
    Only recently have I seen reports that Milwaukee/Henson want to part ways. But how true is it really for a valuable center/pf who is under a great contract for 3 more years.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Henson is overrated imo, and if MIL is aiming for a Kyrie/Giannis/Cousins big 3, they'll need to clear his salary.
     
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    He is not really valuable and that's why they never really counted on him. He was always on and off. He is just a good per36 guy but weak against tough competition. He is really soft. His only skill is his length and block timing which would be valuable if he was not terrible on off the ball defense.
     
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    The trade idea was something to scoff at, though.
     
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    He might be overrated, but I'd still take him over any big on the Blazer roster last year not named Nurk.
    Injury prone & A bench player with weaknesses. Yet he's still a shot blocking big who has shown the ability to perform in that role.
    If he can get back to blocking nearly 2 shots a game off the bench, that's pretty damn good.
     
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    Who is Henson overrated by exactly? If anything he's underrated, or at least under utilized. He's tailor made for Portlands system. He can just sit back and protect the rim. He'd be a good backup to Nurkic.
     

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