Trade Ideas & sh*t

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  1. riverman

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    CJ is healthy, loyal, talented and I see no reason to trade him for another big...AD is talented but really, really injury prone....CJ is a really mature, bright, high character guy and you want to make him play with Boogie in the Big Easy? We have plenty of bigs right now..we need to replace AC at this point...not with a max contract guy either...AD is an elite player, no doubt...but to me we have Nurk and some really good PFs on friendly contracts. Our team would be better in my view keeping CJ and adding a Gerald Henderson type to replace AC off the bench
     
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    Probably efficiency. Irving has poor shooting percentages, similar to Dame, but unlike Dame he has LeBron and Kevin Love to take pressure off him.
     
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    Last year was the first year that McCollum had a good efficiency (TS%) and it was .585. Irving's last year was .580. Lillard's was .586. It's a myth that Lillard is inefficient--you can't just look at his field goal percentage; that's reduced by the fact that he takes ~8 threes a game, which are lower-percentage (but higher yield) shots.
     
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    I don't like the Kyrie demand for a trade.....so I don't want him in Portland..I don't care how good he is....he's bailing on a team that he's won a championship with and been to the finals with multiple times....no thanks
     
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    You and your 1 game arguments
     
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    CJ is an amazing defender because he blocked someone one time!
     
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    It's a complete joke. Especially for someone who uses the phrase "learn the game, then post" to mock people.
     
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    Should always be "learn the game then mock people"
     
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    Guards the Blazers Best guard? Who was guarding Dame when he scored 51 on them?
     
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    Butler Plays SF for the most part.
     
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    He won't in Minny. Unless they're planning on playing Wiggins at SG.
     
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    Klay is a role player, CJ is a focal point.
    It could be argued that Klay is better at being a role player than CJ is at being a focal point. But that's as far as it goes - you can't build a team around Klay the way you could around CJ.
    Butler is an entirely different story - he's the type of player Klay wishes he was.
     
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    I see. Personally I see last year as an aberration in his career more than anything else. Will be interesting to see him in a new situation.
     
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    Interesting. I don't necessarily disagree - I think most players are overrated. But Butler is one of the few players I'd consider swapping CJ for. Unlike Klay. I think Butler's defense is obviously better than CJ's, and also better than Klay's. Butler's offense isn't as good as CJ's, but he seems to do everything better than Klay except shoot 3-pointers. Butler can be a focal point on offense, and be the guy who guards the other team's best guard/wing.
    Of Rose/Butler I always felt like Rose was the most overrated and Butler was the more legit player. Rose always reminded me of a poor man's Brandon Roy.
     
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    Dame & CJ want to win now. Let's see how loyal they stay if it isn't really happening in a few more years and reality sets in. Get another big time star in Portland!
     
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    everybody wants to win now....Dame and CJ bought houses and live with their mothers...not everybody does that
     
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    I can't tell if this is serious or sarcasm.
     

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