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  1. Rastapopoulos

    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    Detroit might seriously consider this one:
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    And I bet they'd actually be HAPPY to take this one:
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    So he's necessary AND sufficient #LogicTalk
     
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    It's a mix of Blake's salary, injury history, age, and attitude. I'm willing to overlook all of this if we are getting rid of our worst-most-expensive-player. But if we're ADDING Blake's issues to the current issues we have with Turner, the reward isn't great enough for the price/risk.
    Also, I'm not sure how you'd make it work financially without Turner...if you could make it work it'd likely include players I wouldn't want to include. Dame, CJ, Collins (not that he has much salary), and Nurk are all off the table - so it seems like the trade would NEED to be built around Turner.
     
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    I was going to make a snarky comment about that, but then I looked it up and Harkless is STILL just 24. Seems like he's been around forever! He's nearly 2 years younger than CJ.
     
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    Yes, but we have no idea how involved Bowers was in putting together the deal. It could have very easily been his doing and Van Gundy approved it. Kind of like with Pritchard in Indiana while Bird was there. I often put deals together where I worked and my manager (and in some cases the owner) approved them.
     
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    It always cracks me up when people claim a subjective opinion is wrong.
     
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    Gotcha, I thought you initially were saying that you wouldn't trade for him even if Turner was included.
     
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    I mean that is all just speculation. The facts are that they traded for Griffin and it was so bad that the man in charge of player personnel lost both that title and was fired from being coach as well. Trading for Griffin literally cost him his job and put the team in a huge financial burden for four more years. The team has made the playoffs once in 9 years (A sweep by LeBron).

    Who knows what they will do though?
     
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    POR: Carmelo Anthony

    OKC: Evan Turner and Moe Harkless

    DAL: Meyers Leonard, #51, #57, and POR 2020 lottery protected 1st round pick
     
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    Oh no - I'm TOTALLY on board with trading Turner/Aminu/Pick for Griffin!
     
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    I'm all for getting rid of Turner, but I just don't get the reasoning behind this. We give up assets in order to get worse?
     
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    Considering we’d be dropping off ~36 mil in one season for basically Moe Harkless and a lottery protected pick two years from now, worth it. We have so much deadweight on this team, we aren’t going anywhere either anytime soon, may as well look at a potential rebuild.
     
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    If you are looking at a potential rebuild, why would you give up future picks? That hurts a rebuild. This trade doesn't really do anything to help a rebuild.
     
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    But with Dame/CJ/Nurk, plus the minimum-scrubs, we're still at/over the cap. So you gave away Harkless and draft picks and we still don't have room to sign free agents. And, even if you did create cap space we'd just sign more mediocre players to overpriced contracts. So...I'm still failing to see any reason why anyone outside of OKC would want anything to do with that trade. And I'm not even sure OKC would be into it, given Turner's contract lasts longer than Melo's.
     
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    I thought they where HCP's groupies.
     
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    How'd that work with SAR?

    It didn't...
     
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    19 and 5 per 36 on 47FG%, 40 3pt%, and along with great defense...? That's as good as CJ.
     
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    They'd be rebuilding. Millsap is expiring.
     
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    Fair enough. I just noticed the Team option for 18-19"
     
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