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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    Taurean Prince seems like a typical Olshey move: low risk messing around with the lower end of the rotation in moves almost certain to NOT move any needle. Also, if the goal is to replace Harkless as the starting SF, it's even more a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense. The next time Olshey trades or drafts defense will be the first time.

    I guess it would be change, which would at least be interesting. I don't know how the Blazers make the trade work though with Prince's 2.5M salary.

    Curry for Prince? why would Atlanta do that?

    Meyers + 1st for Dedmon & Prince?

    Evan Turner + 1st for Jeremy Lin + Prince....I'd definitely do that one if the 1st was at least lottery protected

    by the way, I'm definitely one of those who don't put a lot of value on Portland's 1st round pick. Sure, it has some value but too many people squeeze that pick like it's a silver dollar when it's more like a quarter. Right now, Portland has the 22nd pick
     
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    You don't like Aminu's defense? You don't like Nurk's defense? You don't like Harkless's defense?
     
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    Aminu was signed

    Harkless and Nurkic were Olshey dumpster diving and their potential defense was ancillary to the trades Olshey was making, especially considering he would have traded for Okafor if Denver hadn't added the first. Defense wasn't the goal, but sure, it came with the package so I guess he 'traded for it'

    Olshey may have been thinking about defense when he drafted Collins though. He certainly wasn't when he let Davis walk and signed Curry and Stauskas after drafting Simons and Trent
     
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    Turner- defensive player
    Harkless- defensive player
    Aminu- defensive player
    Nurkic- defensive player
    Collins- defensive player

    spin it whatever way you want, but those are all acquisitions Olshey has brought to the team in the last few years and all play a significant role in the rotation and play solid defense.
     
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    read what I said....'trade or draft' so that eliminates Aminu and Turner...and Davis by the way. AFAIC, Collins may be the only one when the goal was defense. The goal for Nurkic was punting a QO a year down the road. The goal for Harkless was simply 'hey look what I found in the dumpster'. And if Portland trades for Prince they'd be replacing good defense with worse defense...but maybe the knee of Harkless is worse then we know
     
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    Like I said, spin it any way you want, but an acquisition is an acquisition regardless of how it was accomplished. I know you like to bash Olshey for everything and probably including climate change, but cherry picking is cherry picking.
     
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    So Olshey is good at acquiring good defensive players but not during draft or trade. He is good at it in free agency. Ugh. When Olshey acquires someone who is shitty its "Olshey sucks he went out and got a bad player" or "a typical Olshey move because it would be replacing good defense with bad defense.". When he gets someone who is good or plays defense its "well that was on accident". Harkless was dumpster diving - but he picked that particular dumpster, maybe because he thought Mo could defend. And he just lucked into Nurk being able to defend?
     
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    This is such a pedantic convo. So much nitpicking.
     
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    Prince would be underwhelming.
     
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    Not for a salary dump.
     
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    If Meyers goes...we'll need a center...and still need a wing
     
  12. TorturedBlazerFan

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    With Meyers here Zach should probably play Center at least if he’s not going to start. If he starts he needs to play PF. Meyers has been much better this year, not denying that but Having him and Zach out there usually means one of them has to play peremiter defense...

    Anyways Go Blazers!!!
     
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    And you like to bash Olshey critics. It's your hobby.
     
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    He said that Harkless plays good defense.
     
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    I hear Ed Davis will be a free agent this summer....
     
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    Jaylen Brown and Marcus Morris got into a confrontation during their loss to Miami. Could locker-room friction and frustration push the Celts to consider trades?
     
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    This reads like an espn article heh
     
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    CBS Sports. It was caught on film, so it wasn't the product of someone's imagination. FWIW, it started as a verbal confrontation and Morris escalated to putting his hands on Brown.
     
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    I saw it (the video), I was just stating that your post read like a news article. Im not even stating if thats good or bad, just how I read it.
     
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    :cheers:
     
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