Trade Ideas Thread

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by BonesJones, Apr 28, 2018.

  1. blazerfan11

    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, if your goal is to win a championship, I don’t think McCollum as the 2nd best player is going to do it.
     
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    blazerfan11 Well-Known Member

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    Why is it ridiculous?
     
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    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    Because in theory you could add 6 or 7 or even 10 players who compliment them both and end up with a really good team. Start thinking outside the box and stop thinking the only way to get better is to move one of them. So far the crazy CJ trade threads have not been any better.

    CJ and Dame can be the two best scorers and others can be great at everything else.
     
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  4. BonesJones

    BonesJones We got shooters.

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    If we had RoCo and OPJ as forwards we'd be the best team im the West.
     
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    Good thing he’s not the second best player on the team then.
     
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    I think the problem for some of us is the “in theory” part. No NBA team has had two shortish guards where one of them isn’t a plus defender. Toronto was probably the closest ever, but there are many more examples where the short guard didn’t work.

    Now, I do agree that the 3-focused NBA is a different beast than in the past. But, I would still like to have a 2 that contributed more on the defensive end when his shot wasn’t falling.

    I think it is clear that for Dame and CJ to work, the rest of the team must be plus defenders.
     
  7. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Why would you be in favor of a Dame/Towns pairing if you believe that one of a team's two building blocks should be a notable defender? It's interesting that your statement in support of Towns focuses on his offense, specifically naming a quality that is also true of CJ.

    Your arguments are not consistent with one another.
     
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    Nurkic > Towns.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I wanna pair em together.
     
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    tlongII Legendary Poster

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    How about Nurk as the 2nd best player and CJ as the 3rd best player?
     
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    I think this might be true. We are structured that way now though.
     
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    This is what I am saying. Get a bunch of plus defenders to surround them. But you know what does not exactly make us better.....substituting CJ for another shooting guard who might be better on D but who is a worse shooter. This does not make us worse but it does not make us better either. Either way you still have to fill the roster with better players. The obsession with fixing our guard psoiton has never made sense to me. Fix the positions that are below average not the position that is above average.
     
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    Agreed. We had the defenders before, but now we have defenders that are better able to punish double teams on Dame.
     
  14. PtldPlatypus

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    I don't disagree, but how might you accomplish that?
     
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    I understand your point, and admit you might be right. However, I don't agree that CJ is necessarily a position of strength. When he is hitting his shots, certainly he is. But, when he is having an off night, he doesn't really offer much else to the team, and unlike Dame, doesn't seem to realize when he is off that he should probably pass more to players that are hot. Hopefully he matures this year like Dame has. Every year Dame works on his weaknesses. If CJ could up his defense to Dame level then I think the rest could work.
     
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    with a hope and a prayer?

    Offer em Zach/Simons/2 first rounders and take on Wiggins deal while giving them salary relief?
     
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    All our youth, picks and expirings for all their long-term salary? Sure would save them a ton of money, but I don't see them being on board.

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  18. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Not yet anyway. Maybe in a year after Collins/Simons show something more.
     
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    Zach and Simons could easily end up being the 2 best players in that trade.

    And I’m a UK guy and like Towns a lot.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Towns might become the best offensive big man EVER if he sustains his current run. His efficiency on offense is elite.
     

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