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  1. Scalma

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    the same reason Horford opted out of 30m before he went to Philly. Smaller AAV but more guaranteed money long term.
     
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    Yeah, but if he signs a 4-year contract at 25 million he is guaranteed to make another 65 million. He needs to assume that he might get injured again....maybe even this season.
     
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    This is a bit different scenario.

    Horford opted out of a $30M contract to sign one starting at $28M. He gave up $2M for the security. Horford is also a few years older than Hayward, so he knows this was likely his last 'big' contract.

    Hayward would be opting out of at $34M contract to sign one at $25M? Giving up $9M.... much less likely.

    It still doesn't change the fact that Portland doesn't have the matching salaries to get Hayward without including CJ.
     
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    he’s not “giving up $9m.” He’s giving up $34m guaranteed for somewhere around $100m guaranteed; an offer that most likely won’t be there next year if he gets hurt again.
     
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    Please for the love of everything include MeJ.
     
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    Gotta steal Oubre somehow :bored:
     
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    Whiteside could go to a third team like NY with a pick. We saw Detroit take on Ariza salary while swapping picks.

    Don't think it's likely we get Hayward for Whiteside, but I think its more likely than Neil trading CJ.
     
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    Is mannix stupid? Like Hayward would ever agree to that. Buuuut if Boston is willing to tale Drummond, they should be willing to take Whiteside lol
     
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    do they need Gordon's approval?
     
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    He has a player option. He’s not gonna opt in if they’re planning to trade him to Cleveland.
     
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    was under the impression he did that already. nvm

    I would take him for Whiteside in a S&T.
     
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    Yeah Hayward would be amazing acquisition for us.

    Whiteside may have to go to a third team, I don't know Boston would want him.

    Maybe restructure the Ariza trade... send Ariza to Boston and Whiteside to Detroit with some more draft picks going out.
     
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    Can we can restructure the Ariza trade. Didn't Houston already move Ariza and the pick to Detroit?
     
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    I don't believe the trades going on 20/21 books are officially completed until next week... even after free agent verbal agreements.

    We'd possibly have to get Houston to also agree to restructure it. Seems like sending them $200k cash would be enough.

    Often deals get agreed to preliminary by teams/players then the tweak them for the final version to add more teams or players if all parties agree to.
     
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    Would love to add Hayward in a S&T, but seems unlikely/wishful thinking.
    I can't remember if I speculated here on Hayward thinking, that he likely has an offer from Atlanta, but would prefer to go elsewhere. So his hope is convincing Boston to do S&T, with the leverage of walking to Atlanta.
    If we did a double sign and trade, with , like, hood to NY, Whiteside to Boston, each getting decent amount in year 1. And Hayward here. Maybe we agree to take Kanter into the tpe as compensation.
     
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    How good is Hayward at this point? I really haven't watched him much in Boston lately.
     
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    He put up 17/7/4 last year, shooting 38% from 3. Still pretty good
     
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    He's been somewhat marginalized playing with Tatum, Brown, and Kemba, but his advanced numbers we're pretty solid.
     
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    CJ to Boston in a sign and trade of Hayward and Boston sends over a 2021 first rounder. I'm pretty sure that Hayward fits under the label of "can create his own shot", he's only a year older than CJ, he's a helluva lot better than CJ on defense and we get a pick because Boston is just facilitating the sign and trade so that's hardly worth CJ. So we're trading CJ for the facilitation and a first rounder in a deep draft.
     
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    Would you trade 2023 1st (top 14 protected) + Ant Simons + Zach Collins to the Hawks for John Collins?

    PG
    Damian Lillard
    Sign: Shaquille Harrison

    SG
    C.J. McCollum
    Gary Trent Jr.
    Sign: Damyean Dotson
    CJ Elleby

    SF
    Robert Covington
    Nassir Little
    Mario Hezonja

    PF
    John Collins
    Sign: JaMychal Green
    Wenyen Gabriel

    C
    Jusuf Nurkic
    Sign: Willie Cauley-Stein
     
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