Trade Ideas Thread

Cleveland doesn't really use Love well, so a 3-and-D PF males sense in that role.. They need someone that can create their own which They dont have outside of Clarkson (who isn't a great shooter so he struggles to play off LeBron, CJ could do both). Harkless replaces Green who's warned a decent contract somewhere else.

I don't think they take it there's just been a lot of fans talking about it.

 

If we are going to resign Nurk I really do not see us doing much of anything unless it means giving up Zach and CJ. The other pieces we have will net us not much but the same team (in my opinion) I think it would be interesting to see what draft pick we could get this year for CJ.

 

And even that isn't likely; because why go into luxury cap hell for a mediocre player; and it seems that is all that would be available for 12 million.

 

Pretty much. More likely we use the MLE.

 

I don't think we will resign Nurk like everyone else does and if we do they find a trade for CJ.

Too damn bad fans don't run the teams.

 

Derozen + Ibaka for CJ + our #1 (24) pick + Collins

Dame / Derozen ?

Sign Nurkic

Sign Napier

 

DeRozan and Ibaka make almost $50 million combined next year. That isn't even close to enough money going back to them for a trade to work.

 

DeRozan straight up for CJ? DeRozan gets shut down by JR Smith every year.

 

So Take Ibaka out of the deal....

CJ + Collins + #1 pick
For
DeRozen

Do you make the trade?

 

I’m not sure Toronto would take CJ straight up for DeRozen.

We’d have to really sweeten the pot. Collins might do it. Collins with our #1 might turn their heads.

I think Dame and DeRozen would look pretty good! Might even hook us a 3rd all-star in free agency...?

 

I'd want Ibaka but I do like the idea of getting DeRozan.

 

I think using our TPE to add bad salary while getting a solid draft pick makes a ton of sense. We could add more than our TPE amount ($13M) by working a 3-team trade like this: Atlanta gets Meyers Leonard and Caleb Swanigan sending us back Miles Plumlee who we acquire with our TPE. In that scenario, we're sending out around $12.5M in salary, so we could take back around $16M. Here's a hybrid version:

WAS Gets: Al-Farouq Aminu
ATL Gets: Meyers Leonard, Jake Layman (Ungauranteed)
POR Gets: Ian Mahinmi, Jason Smith, Miles Plumlee, (TPE), 15th Pick

Atlanta can cut Layman and save a little but of money by exchanging Plumlee for Leonard (Plumlee makes apx. $1M more than Meyers for the next couple years, their contracts are the same length).

Washington saves apx. $15M a year. For a team butting up against the tax, this is huge. They also get a rotation player in Aminu.

So we'd have the 15th and 24th picks.. We could then go to New York and see if they would trade #9, Lance Thomas and Damyeon Dotson for #15, #24 and Maurice Harkless.

At #9 we could take Mikal Bridges. We'd still need a PF, but I'd prefer to sign Wayne Ellington to an MLE then try to shop for a PF on a Vet minimum (Amir Johnson?)

Lillard (36) / McCollum (12)
McCollum (24) / Ellington (24)
Bridges (24) / Turner (24)
Collins (24) / Johnson (20) / Bridges (4)
Nurkic (30) / Davis (18) / Mahinmi / Plumlee

We'd still have all our future picks and our starting lineup for the future completely set. With Turner, Mahinmi, and Plumlee expiring after 2019-2020, that's apx. $48M in expiring contracts. We could either 1.) Use those contracts with our draft picks to trade for a borderline star and bring Collins or Bridges off the bench or we could trade for some legit bench help, 2.) we could let them expiring and have a decent amount of cap space with Bridges and Collins being on rookie contracts with no other sizeable salary outside of Dame, CJ, and Nurk. We could add a FA... or 3.) We could trade the expirings at the deadline for bad salary while getting picks as a reward for helping another team shed bad contracts. We could continue to add assets by taking on salary to continue to add to our pool of youth.

I like it. We need to try something like this.

 

We have a lot of needs. That trade would create an extra one. Put even more of a need on a SF who can spread the floor. Plus we would be back in the market for a PF.

 

No, and Olshey certainly wouldn't.

CJ+ Biebs + #1 pick
for
DeRozen + OG

and we have a deal (but I don't think Toronto does that.)

 

I don't think CJ for DeRozen is even that great of a deal for us.

 

Why do we want Derozen? Part of our problem this year we inability to spread the floor, Derozen doesn't stop that, he isn't a great defender and about all he does better then CJ is get to the line.

 

Those 2 swaps add an additional 15,575,956 in salary next season. Losing Harkless, Aminu, Leonard, adding Mahinmi, Smith, Plumlee, Thomas, Dotson. And then swapping 24 for 9. We lose 2 rotation players in Harkless and Aminu. We lose 2 starters off a 49 win team. We lose arguably our most versatile defender. We add...Bridges. None of the rest should or would be in the rotation.

You have Ellington at MLE(tax payer), Amir at minimum(not happening, but I'll go with it). Also a re-signed Davis and Nurk. I'll rough estimate 5 for Davis, 17.5 for Nurk, starting for each. Adding in the #9 pick in Bridges.

That gives us a salary of almost 160 million. 160! Wanna know the tax bill? Over 90 million! And that team isn't noticeably better than the team we currently have. 250 million dollars! LOL. We need to try something like this? That's fucking asinine. If we're already going way over signing Nurk, Davis and Ellington, the added salary to add Bridges is primarily in the 20 million over tax bracket. Which is 3.75 per every dollar. And increases. You wanna swap Aminu and Harkless and basically 50 million dollars for Bridges. Aminu, Harkless and 50 Million dollars for Bridges. That's absurd. Dude better be Ben Simmons good in year 1 to justify that horrid deal.

 

Johnson probably wouldnt sign so look elsewhere then. We'd be better this year and be better towards the future. The only reason you've come up with not to do it is fimances, so I guess it comes down to how bad Paul Allen wants a contender.

Bridges can be a Kawhi-type player. He has that kind of potential. In terms of roster, it's a great series of moves.

 

It's pointless for both teams.