As talented as Griffin is I have to agree with you. I'd much rather develop our own home grown talent than take on an often injured allstar with no loyalty to our city.
Only Blazer fans would want to turn away a perennial all-star and top 10 player to keep one of their role players. SIGH... Reminds me of not trading role players for Barkley because we thought we could win without him.
If you can get Griffin for Whiteside without Collins, then I would add any firsts available over the next 3-4 years. If Collins has to be included, then I would want an extremely thorough physical first. If Griffin was healthy then there is no question that trade would help dramatically. Dame CJ Baz/Hez/Hood/____ Griffin Nurkic would be amazing. Everyone can pass and everyone except Nurkic can hit the three.
5 fouls to give. 6th one he is out. Thought that was common understanding. 5 more fouls(to give) The 6th one puts him out of the game, so he cant really give it and remain a body in the game.
No one ever says it's a body with 5 fouls to give. If his whole value is giving fouls then he takes the full 6.
