we complain about the lack of people willing to come n play for us, yet at the same time seem content in some corners to let an asset like GTJ walk. its a weird ole thing we got going on here
Good grief dude, use your eyeballs and read before you lose your shit over a straw man. I said "I'd love to swing some sort of a package deal that brings back a mid to late 1st for him in this loaded next draft." Whats in that hypothetical package deal was not defined and obviously could vary wildly. I also made suggestions that the 76ers and Bucks could be motivated trade partners looking to upgrade their title aspirations. Phili is starting 33 year old Danny Green who, besides largely sucking ass this season, is about to be an UFA. Can your logically challenged brain see how they might be interested in holding Trent's Bird rights? The Bucks feature a guard rotation of Jrue Holiday, Donte Divincenzo, DJ Augustin & Bryn Forbes... pretty sure they'd love to add a SG sized sniper to displace some of that dreck. Hell yes they'd plan on resigning him too. Both of those teams are in win now mode. Their incentive in potentially acquiring Trent is obvious... they have a need for wing sized legit outside threats to spread the court in support of their superstar. STOMP
Yes, I’m clearly losing my shit. I’m so offended by your hypothetical scenarios. Any trade “package” that is centered on a mid to late FRP is a non starter. Or is the trade not centered on that? If not, why mention it? Clearly that’s what you valued, no? What do the 76ers have to offer us? What do the Bucks have? Also with the 76ers cap situation that could be tricky for them. Anyhow, I can see your brain has the emotional intelligence, sophistication and critical thinking capacity of a high school girl, so bye princess.
Besides all this, CJ costs bocu bucks and Trent is younger. The complaint on defense can carry on to all the team except Covington and DJJ.
It's like some of you have no concept of the salary cap. Do you really want to have Dame on a supermax, CJ on 30+ million per year, and Gary making 18-20 million per year?
My friend, it is in fact, complicated. We let LMA walk, and it hurt the franchise for years. We paid Biebs and Crabbe, and it hurt the franchise for years. We did attempt to "pay the man" and he turned it down.
The writing had been on the wall for YEARS that LMA was going to bail. It was flat out stupid to not trade him.
I made a statement in support of trading Trent for value before he walks. You responded in complete ignorance of the quality of this upcoming draft saying that a late 1st is "worthless" & "shit". I'm willing to trade anyone for the benefit of the team while you're clearly all about GTJ, but whatever. I politely informed you that this upcoming draft is not shit/worthless. Your response was to insult me stating my thoughts make "absolutely no sense". The pick that was shit/worthless was now "the next Michael Porter Jr." and no team would part with that. You further demonstrated you've no idea about how Bird rights work. I've been posting in this group of Blazer fans for over 2 decades now. Pretty obvious you're just another naive little fanboy in way over your head. Unable to disagree without insults and too stupid to know when you're stepping in it. Suck a bag of dicks fanboy! STOMP
I really wonder what level of trade value Trent has. On one hand, he certainly can shoot the three-ball and at least offers the potential of a 3&D guy, and that has value. On the other hand, his defense is not close to established and he doesn't offer passing or positional rebounding. He also doesn't dribble-drive but he has a minimal salary and he's RFA this summer. A team won't know what kind of obligation they are trading for
He's young, he's a good shooter, and he presents the illusion of defense. I think he'll get a decent contract. Look at what DJJ got. He can't shoot at all.
OK, is the writing on the wall for Trent? The speculation is that he wants to start, and get paid starter's $$$. Is he leaving? Should we trade him? Isn't he restricted?
The writing is on the wall that he's going to get paid. He can't leave. That's not the concern. But do we want to pay him with CJ making 30+ million?
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and the NBA draft bears this out. Don't be so fast to get rid of Gary Trent.
I think trents current value around the league is at 15-18 mill a season for four years. He has shown signs of being a potentially elite 3 and D guy which is highly valued in this current nba style. He is still inconsistent, but young. He is known to be a hard worker and a decent bbiq, so i think most believe there is still a good upside with him. The big question is salary cap concerns vs return vs what NO values. Cj is part of his core, but trent has proven pivital. Who do you think will be the better defensive player? Ant or trent? If trent, you pay him aNd trade simons, hood etc. If Simons, you trade trent. Neither are a point guard. I think the decision is between trent and simons. Not cj and trent.
The problem is that if we spend 15M on Trent next season and keep both Dame and CJ then we're committing 90M to our back court. That leaves 40M for the other 11 players before the luxury tax. I don't think that can come close to happening. The question really has to be, when looking at what happens after CJ comes back, is CJ worth 30M on a team that has Trent?
Thats very true, but could they decide not to re-sign Nurk when his deals up? If you can get equal value for CJ and it improves the team go for it. But to lose out on a player like Trent, who has the "eye of the tiger" could be a negative? What id Dame & CJ where to restructure their contracts to improve the team?
