Trail Blazers @ Jazz Game Thread

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  1. RW#30

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    So who would you give it to? Sergio? Dribbled it of his leg three times.Outlaw? He was totally lost tonight.

    We need to make a trade and get rid of our change. This is a grown man's game, lets get $ bills.
    We need to get Outlaw, Sergio or fry out with Raef's contract and get a point guard who can get our offense going.
     
  2. mgb

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    I wish we would get the ball to Oden off of pick and rolls, but most of the time it looked like to me it's a really bad angle. I don't mind if Oden messes up, he needs to have the chance to make mistakes and learn, but if it's a TO before he gets it that isn't helping him learn. I think one reason Joel has better success is other teams don't worry about him like they do Oden while they should.
     
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    Sometimes, wins do accompany great individual performances. Jordan made a career of it. Last night, Melo scored 45 and his team won. Why can't Roy score big and have us win? One could say that Roy didn't score too much, he didn't score enough. Sometimes, your star has to step up and do what must be done to win the game. If he had a big 4th, we probably would've won.
     
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    Nonsense.

    Just a bad couple of games against well-coached teams.

    Doesn't mean a thing.

    Some practice and home-cookin' and we're Red Hot and Rollin'.
     
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    I don't think he was blaming the refs. I think he was pointing out that the Jazz got really aggressive while we continued to shoot three pointers and jumpers and the refs rewarded the Jazz and.. we did nothing to get rewarded too.
     
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    come on nate haters. who would we hire?
     
  7. alex42083

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    We just have way too many young players that we rely on that if we don't get them involved, then their minds wander and they don't feel apart of it.
    Brandon is just a better player and we're a better team, when everyone is involved. We're not good enough to rely on just one player. MJ had vets, Denver has experienced guys like Billups.
     
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    Randy Wittman, PJ Carlesimo, Eddie Jordan and Sam Mitchell are available. (kidding, I like Nate).
     
  9. bodyman5001

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    That ugly bald dork on ESPN Jeff Van Gundy would have this team running an offense in a few weeks.

    He sure is ugly though.
     
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    I'd try to go after Van Gundy personally. While his offense is not the best I think he would definitely shape us up on the defensive side. I have complete faith he would not inexplicably have us in a zone when the other team is raining three pointers on us.

    I'd also consider Avery Johnson but am not entirely sure if I'd want him. Of course he did get Dallas to the finals.
     
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    By the way, JVG is known as more of a defensive minded coach and he would still make a better offensive coach.
     
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    I think Avery might be the perfect coach for Greg, he played with some guys Greg must admire and I feel he could communicate with him. There is something about his personality that this team could use, and he has probably learned a lot from his Dallas Stint.
     
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    They were denying Roy the ball, double teaming him right off. Under those conditions others have to step up. Roy had a lot of points, but if others don't step up to take off the pressure you can't expect him to do it completely alone.
     
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    you cant expect roy to carry us the whole 4th quarter too. he played the whole second half

    btw-i guess i kind of like avery but he sure did fall fast in dallas
     
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    I don't mind Nate the person. I think he did a good job here when the team needed turned around in the community. I just don't think he'll ever be a title-capable coach and I think we all agree here: we want a title - hell we want multiple titles.
     
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    Maybe Nate needs to return to Sarge, and start yelling at everyone. Throw some chairs, break something or whatever. Get some emotion into the team.
     
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    Hell no! My ears can't stand that guy.
     
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    I think Avery's downfall in Dallas was just a bunch of issues rising together really quick:

    The collapse in the finals (aided greatly by the refs love for D-whistle).

    Letting Don Nelson dictate the matchups in the playoffs in 2007 (this is my big fear with some coaches, including Nate: Letting the other coach dictate the matchup strengths. He never should have gone small just because Nelson did) which resulted in them losing that series (also didn't help that Dirk let himself get just defended unbelievably by Stephen Jackson).

    After these two things and trading away Harris (who Avery wanted) for a future HOF point guard on the last leg of his career who has a mini rep for being a coach killer who complained about Avery being too strict it all just came crashing down. Then add in Cuban being your owner and being kinda crazy and flimsy it was BAM YOU ARE GONE IN A FLASH.

    Like I said I'm not entirely sure I'd want him (because again I do not like coaches who let other coaches dictate matchups. Play to YOUR strengths and what has worked for you all year!), but I'd definitely like Van Gundy.

    Van Gundy got a bad start in Houston because of Steve Francis and then could never get it working with TMac and Yao either (this could be due to various injuries and that Yao cannot reobund for the life of him in crunch situations in the damn playoffs and McGrady is cursed to the first round). I think he'd do a lot of good for our defense and like bodyman said, he'd probably even improve our offense.

    I think he'd get a lot of respect from the locker room too just from his Knicks days with Ewing and company.
     
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    Tom Thibodeau, make it happen.
     
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    Who said that Avery wanted Devin Harris? When I was at the game in Dallas last season, it was the day the first trade fell through because of Devean George and a few fans near me, who were excited at the prospect of getting Kidd, told me that Avery Johnson hated Devin Harris.
     

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