Training Camp Thread....Dare I say Official?

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    Stotts talking about not liking isos, while incorporating a more motion, faster offense is freakin awesome. Hope this actually materializes. It seems like every team in the nba says they're gonna play faster during training camp.
     
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    We've suffered for how many years under Cheeks and McMillen with boring, stagnant offense, and being near the bottom of the league in FB points. So many fans saw it, and even the players have all but flat out said it. Nice to see some change! We can at least have some fun, even if we lose.
     
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    I thought it was about what a injury has rob us of, or which type and while we might have got more if not for the injuries you mention I think we were more assured of at least another title if Walton's feet injuries didn't happen.

    Sorry if I miss the point or just making one reply to many for you.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Those teams, with Webber, Vlade and Miller had some of the best interior passing I have ever seen. If Stotts can bring that to Portland, this will be a very fun team to watch.

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    Let's hope it is more like that than the passing with Maglorie, Bogut, Redd and Ford. :D
     
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    Magloire had perhaps the worst hands I have ever seen, hands of STONE
     
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    mook The 2018-19 season was the best I've seen

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    Those are some pretty honest and self-critical quotes there. Obviously, you'd love to read that he destroyed Aldridge, but that ain't happening in the real world.

    Reminds you just how good Aldridge is. I think a lot of fans just take him for granted, given our long history with quality power forwards. The idea of him being unsaddled from grind-it-out low-post-only McMillan ball is damned exciting.
     
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    Yeah, there's the ideal and the reality.

    With the guys we have, we have no hope of coming close to the passing acumen of that Kings team. But it's a nice role model to try to live up to.

    I'd be happy if we just made a carbon copy of the Mavs' championship offense. It's really a better representation of how our team is built, with Aldridge/Dirk, Lillard/Kidd and Terry, decent bigs, athletic wing. Imperfect comparison, but closer.
     
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    In 05-06 with a semi healthy group, the Bucks were 8th in the league in assists, 14th in ppg, and 13th in PACE

    The following season, and injury riddled team was 12th in assists, 10th in ppg and 11th in PACE

    Stott's big issues were on defense rather than offense. It seems to me that his time in Dallas educated him on the importance of defense a bit, which is why it has been the focus of training camp so far. Also, Portland has a lot more talent than the Bucks did when he was coach
     
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    This thread has me Sooooo stoked especially reading the interviews with players.

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Just looked it up, in 2003-04, Webber averaged 4.6 APG, Miller 4.3 APG and Vlade 5.3 APG (in only 28.6 MPG)! That's incredibly good passing from your 4 and 5 spots.

    Add in Bibby at 5.4 APG and Christie at 4.2 APG and you've got five guys averaging between 4.2 and 5.4 APG. Now that what I call sharing the ball! Plus, you need to also have a lot of player movement to create that many open looks. If this is what Stotts is trying to do, he has my blessing.

    Just for comparison, only once during the entire P.J., Dunleavy, Cheeks, Nate eras did the team ever have more than two players average >4.2 APG. That was 2003-04 when Cheeks was coach and Damon, DA and Jeff McInnis were in the 4.5 - 6.1 APG range (but McInnis only played 39 games and DA only 51).

    Prior to that, you need to go back to 1993-94, when the Blazers had Strickland, TP and Clyde averaging between 5 and 9 APG to get anything close to that kind of ball movement. And guess who was coaching the Blazers then...

    BNM
     
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    Nice post.

    Stotts has a huge career opportunity to look shockingly good as an offensive coach after McMillan.

    I've often wondered if coaching turnover can be good for a franchise, even when the coaches lost are pretty good. McMillan did (I think) a really good job of molding defensive fundamentals into guys like Aldridge and Batum. But there comes a point where you just aren't going to teach a lot more. I'm just really stoked to see what Stotts' plan is going to bring to their games.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    What are you talking about???? We had all that last year with Felton:

    Passing the donuts, cutting the cheese and hideous bowel MOVEMENTS.

    BNM
     
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    LMA played mostly wing or elbow high post in Nate's offense, although when he went low-post last year, he was unstoppable. LMA has one of the better 18' jumpers in the league or 12' fade-away from the baseline. I know Nate's very unpopular here, but making things up doesn't exactly lend credence to the criticisms.
     
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    Quick also says that they passed gas a bunch. Blake was bad, but Raef was the worst.
     
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    This. I hated that LMA didn't seem to know (or wasn't told) about the "and-roll" portion of the P&R play until the last two years, when every once in a while he'd get the ball rolling to the hoop or get the alleyoop from Rudy curling around to the FT line. But he's been about as versatile as could be the last couple of years.
     

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