LOL potential is overhyped. I agree but it can also be developed into a hell of a player. so are stats. the only stat that matters is winning. you know I think that. Anyway Did you see what Willis McGahee did last year. In 11 games he came in and was a big part of the offense. When he started to roll the offense got better and with that great Defense they got good. Ronnie Brown has never played a game and that is why you can't give him a 1000 yards. Also you take things to far. No one has put McGahee in the HOF except maybe TKO51 but he is a big time Bills fan as we know. Read the posts. Favre, Martin and maybe even Priest are HOF's but a lot of people like to see who the up and coming talent are which is why we talk about him. If you don't like what we are talking about in this thread then why post something.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>LOL potential is overhyped. I agree but it can also be developed into a hell of a player. so are stats. the only stat that matters is winning. you know I think that. Anyway Did you see what Willis McGahee did last year. In 11 games he came in and was a big part of the offense. When he started to roll the offense got better and with that great Defense they got good. Ronnie Brown has never played a game and that is why you can't give him a 1000 yards. Also you take things to far. No one has put McGahee in the HOF except maybe TKO51 but he is a big time Bills fan as we know. Read the posts. Favre, Martin and maybe even Priest are HOF's but a lot of people like to see who the up and coming talent are which is why we talk about him. If you don't like what we are talking about in this thread then why post something.</div> I don't go too far. I scrape away the hype and get to the truth. It just makes those who love the hype uncomfortable to face the truth. The truth is that the statement about putting McGahee in the HOF was directed point blank at TKO. My post followed directly after his and answered his post directly. I don't mind discussing newer players. I don't mind discussing their potential. However, I like to keep potential in it's proper perspective. I don't like discussing potential as though it's an inevitablity that just hasn't been actualized yet. I won't call Michael Vick a quarterback until he learns how to throw the forward pass. I won't call Robert Ferguson a good WR until he catches way more than 38 passes in one year. Willis McGahee may be a great running back in a year or two, but that's a reputation that he will have to earn. I will concede that if I had to bet on Willis McGahee or Michael Vick to find success, I'd have to give a the nod to McGahee. That stats being thrown around here about winning have no substance either. The last I checked football was a team sport. Teams win and lose football games. That's why the NFL Standing pages lists teams and not players. Michael Vick doesn't play defense or special teams. Grady doesn't play offense. To say their singular presence is the sole reason their teams won is way too simplistic to have much credibility. Jay Fiedler had a pretty good win-loss record, but he had little to do with it. If I were the Bills, I think I would have kept McGahee and traded Travis Henry too, but I don't think that choice is as clear cut as everyone is making it out to be. McGahee had a severe knee injury that cast great doubt about his future in football. Only a fool wouldn't have worried about that knee injury. Travis Henry played some good football for the Bills. Right now, the Bills look fine, but if that knee injury reemerges (I hope it doesn't) then they may not look so good in the future. If Travis Henry disappears, then the Bills will look very smart. I don't envy the choice they had to make.
ok so your worried about him hurting himself again and the Bills would be screwed. I see what you mean and I agree. It's not a sure thing that he will stay healthy but it's not a sure thing that anyone stays healthy. It's a physical game and people will get hurt. Whether McGahee does or not we don't know. I think if he stays healthy this year he might be in the top 5 for rushing. I am thinking they rely on him to carry the offense since they have a first year starting QB.
I understand that it's a physical game and players get hurt, but you worry more about a player that has had a severe injury than one that hasn't. That's why McGahee dropped like he did in the draft. That's why Ty Law hasn't been signed yet. I do think that McGahee's performance last year made trading Henry possible this year, but it really is a gamble.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>LOL potential is overhyped. I agree but it can also be developed into a hell of a player. so are stats. the only stat that matters is winning. you know I think that. Anyway Did you see what Willis McGahee did last year. In 11 games he came in and was a big part of the offense. When he started to roll the offense got better and with that great Defense they got good. Ronnie Brown has never played a game and that is why you can't give him a 1000 yards. Also you take things to far. No one has put McGahee in the HOF except maybe TKO51 but he is a big time Bills fan as we know. Read the posts. Favre, Martin and maybe even Priest are HOF's but a lot of people like to see who the up and coming talent are which is why we talk about him. If you don't like what we are talking about in this thread then why post something.</div> I don't go too far. I scrape away the hype and get to the truth. It just makes those who love the hype uncomfortable to face the truth. The truth is that the statement about putting McGahee in the HOF was directed point blank at TKO. My post followed directly after his and answered his post directly. I don't mind discussing newer players. I don't mind discussing their potential. However, I like to keep potential in it's proper perspective. I don't like discussing potential as though it's an inevitablity that just hasn't been actualized yet. I won't call Michael Vick a quarterback until he learns how to throw the forward pass. I won't call Robert Ferguson a good WR until he catches way more than 38 passes in one year. Willis McGahee may be a great running back in a year or two, but that's a reputation that he will have to earn. I will concede that if I had to bet on Willis McGahee or Michael Vick to find success, I'd have to give a the nod to McGahee. That stats being thrown around here about winning have no substance either. The last I checked football was a team sport. Teams win and lose football games. That's why the NFL Standing pages lists teams and not players. Michael Vick doesn't play defense or special teams. Grady doesn't play offense. To say their singular presence is the sole reason their teams won is way too simplistic to have much credibility. Jay Fiedler had a pretty good win-loss record, but he had little to do with it. If I were the Bills, I think I would have kept McGahee and traded Travis Henry too, but I don't think that choice is as clear cut as everyone is making it out to be. McGahee had a severe knee injury that cast great doubt about his future in football. Only a fool wouldn't have worried about that knee injury. Travis Henry played some good football for the Bills. Right now, the Bills look fine, but if that knee injury reemerges (I hope it doesn't) then they may not look so good in the future. If Travis Henry disappears, then the Bills will look very smart. I don't envy the choice they had to make.</div> Nice that someone else is smacking people down for buying hype and potential high, and selling production low. All those poor souls. Totally right about wins being a loaded stat. I should look up 3 string QB on Dallas roster from super bowl teams and immediately declare him Jesus R. QB becuase he won 3 super bowls.
Leave Bernie Kosar, Jason Garrett, Rodney Peete, and Steve Buerline ALONE!!! they earned those rings..lol
Most fans are no different than front offices either. In 2002 and 2003, Travis Henry gave the Bills nearly 3,000 yards of total offense. Last year, his production stumbled a little and Bills fans are ready to kick him to the curb for McGahee. No wonder players hold out. They realize that with the least little slip, they're discarded like garbage for the next shiny bobble. I blame this unrealistic mindset on too much video game playing.