Politics Trump and third party candidates, 2024

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  1. STOMP

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    Is it a coincidence that both Trump and Kennedy have the same multi-Billionaire donor as their by far main contributor or that their websites mirror each other?

    https://data.usatoday.com/2024-pres...op-contributors-as-of-march-2024/?ref=kennedy

    both candidates campaigns have the same coordinated goal, electing Trump. Kennedy is an embarrassment to his family and the definition of a tool

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    Some but not a lot. I dont see anyway Trump beats Joe.
     
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    Kennedy running mate Nicole Shanahan, who has no medical training, denounced in vitro fertilization as a "lie" marketed to women and advised instead sitting in sunshine every morning. A pleasant thing to do, if it isn't raining or snowing or very cold, but no impact on fertility.
     
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    I don’t put a ton of faith in polls either, but there are a few metrics that raise out of the ordinary concerns.
    Trump leads in 7 of the most important swing states. 5 of those 7 are well outside the margins of error.
    Also, Democrats have lost 20 points among black voters under Biden. That is an absolutely crazy number and has no precedent in modern elections. Democrats are completely dependent on that voting block to win elections and they appear to be losing it.
     
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    Between now and Nov trump is going to aleinate more and more voters by is ridiculous comments and ugly persona.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    There’s a difference between saying things and actively being the one funding an ongoing genocide.

    But yea, RFK does completely suck on this issue as well.
     
  10. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Clarified that for you.

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    I'm still bewildered at people thinking RFK Jr will pull votes from Biden. RFK Jr will dilute Trump's voting base more than he will dilute Biden's voting base.
     
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    Polls actually showing he hurts Biden more. Trump cult isn't moving. Uncertain Biden voters think Kennedy is something new.
     
  13. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    FTFY.

    Seriously, any would-be Biden voter who somehow thinks Kennedy represents their views even a little bit clearly has no idea what they're talking about. (BTW, I also think the same about anyone who thinks voting for Trump is a reasonable choice).
     
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    I don't buy the polls. They are not reliable. Kennedy is a republican so of course he will pull republican votes away from Trump.
     
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    I think people know what they want better than you know what they want. Not everyone fits into a pre labeled box.
    All you are saying here is anyone who doesn’t vote for Biden is stupid because you said so. It isn’t a super compelling argument.
     
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    Not at all.
    1. Some people who are would-be Biden voters should vote for Biden.
    2. Some people who are would-be Biden voters but are not fans of Biden should probably vote for someone else--but certainly not Kennedy.
    3. Some people who are not would-be Biden voters at all probably agree with a lot of Kennedy's positions. They should vote for Kennedy.
    4. Some people who are not would-be Biden voters at all probably do not agree with the preponderance of Kennedy's positions. They should probably vote for someone else.
    After all that, I know that there will be plenty of people who believe voting for Trump to be a reasonable position. I believe that to be an ignorant position, and I am comfortable with that analysis.
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Good to see that you are evolving.

    barfo
     
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    Throughout all of our vigorous disagreements I’ve generally maintained a high regard for your intelligence. Which makes this viewpoint of yours a tough pill to swallow.

    I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed.
     
  19. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Ah, you are anti-evolution. Forgive me, I didn't know.

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    sort of like when JFK won the election, something new. Even if he was Irish, Catholic with long hair. Many young people simply vote based on style or anything other than political views.
     

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