OT Trump Asks USPS To Quadruple Shipping Prices

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    I find USPS the shittiest of them all. 50 cents a letter seems too low. Make it a buck, still a deal.

    Would cut down on junk mail, useless shit, etc.

    Force people to adapt to electronic payments or to use email instead to save costs as well.
     
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    FedEx just merged with UPS. Now being called FedUP.
     
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    You don't think a CEO of a global shipping and logistics company is qualified to run the USPS and replace a post master who is retiring?
     
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    LO. Its ALL the fault of the post office. Lack of planning.

    I simply said they don't provide enough revenue to be self sustaining. This is a fact. I have boxes of these documents in our barn regarding all sorts of issues with the post office.

    This is a conversation id gladly have, as I have a LONG first hand knowledge directly from a Union rep on this.

    The post office is failing because it doesn't have the revenue to pay for all the retirees. That's the long and short of it. The shitty part is for 10 years my father had to fight for those retirement benefits, that the post office wants to deny to their long time dedicated retirees.

    Yes, its run like a boot camp. Yes those who sacrificed as tossed to the wolves after retiring. Yes the Post office does not have the revenue to balance its budget.


    Not sure what the debate is?
     
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    also, quadrupling the cost of shipping will likely maybe put them in the green or ride an even line. Not make them a money monger....
     
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    Simple letters with stamps and bulk mail isn't a real problem...again, the USPS was never intended to make a profit.

    It is a service, period, like most government agencies...and the USPS should not be expected to support itself any more than the military.
     
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    Nah, the government shouldnt be expected to maintain an optimal efficiency by utilizing the latest technology. Lets let them run the office in an archaic fashion and then just suppliment the inefficient costs because... they werent meant to turn a profit..

    What kind of logic is that?

    LOL.
     
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    ...LOGIC.

    Yup, let's "quadruple" USPS rates.

    ...why in hell would someone ship a package with USPS for $60 when they can ship the same package with UPS/FEDEX for around $15 ?
     
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    Must be Pretzel math too......

    USPS CHARGES.....

    Small Flat Rate Box up to 70 lbs. 8 11⁄16″ x 5 7⁄16″ x 1 3⁄4″ $8.30 $7.65
    Medium Flat Rate Box
    - Top Loading up to 70 lbs. 11 1⁄4″ x 8 3⁄4″ x 6″ $15.05 $13.20
    Medium Flat Rate Box
    - Side Loading up to 70 lbs. 14″ x 12″ x 3 1⁄2″ $15.05 $13.20
    Large Flat Rate Box up to 70 lbs. 12 1⁄4″ x 12 1⁄4″ x 6″ $21.10 $18.30
    APO/FPO Large Box up to 70 lbs. 12 1⁄4″ x 12 1⁄4″ x 6″ $19.60 $16.80


    UPS Charges with a n85% business discount. to ship from tualatin to Seattle for a 70# box with the dims of the medium flate rate box....

    USPS.....$13.20

    UPS W/85% discount....$51.85
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    ""QUADRUPLE"...

    And yes, flat rate boxes. are the only service USPS offers. :biglaugh:

    Edit; screenshot of a package I shipped;


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    IMO, if a Fed agency wants to operate at cost neutral that's what they should do, but they need to at least cover cost, that would include retirement pensions.
     
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    $13.20 x 4 = $52.80, which is right in line with what UPS charges a business with a discount, so it will be much more for a person off the street. So evne at 4 times the rate... QUADRUPLE.... its still a better deal than UPS.

    Everyone has the right to use whatever math logic they want no matter how flawed it is though....

    To each their own.
     
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    I never once said they should maintain a profit. I have said they are losing money because of "X" factors that are directly related to one of two things. Costs of services being well below market value and poor leadership regarding the long term budget to include retirement benefits.

    Both are directly a result of the Post office, contrary to what someone else said.
     
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    So how are we going to ensure the military covers their own costs? Bake sales, perhaps?

    I know--they could sell surplus weapons to Iran. The US has some experience with that.
     
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    Invade Canada, sell it to China.
     
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    China is already making monthly payments on the purchase...it's a long term loan
     
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    Isn't like what they are doing with us?
     

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