OT ...Trump...beginning of the end?

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    ... protesters trying to disrupt the parade.
     
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    Liberalism on display....
     
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    ...poor taste and poor sportsmanship on display.
     
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    At this rate, Trump is gonna cause Rachel Maddow to stroke out on air. Watching MSNBC just became "deathpool".
     
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    ..."alternative facts"...rotflmfao.
     
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    Increased revenues. Tax and regulatory relief stimulates business activities and spending. Historically the math here works. Dems don't do it because they use the increased tax revenue to grow govt and entitlements. Trump already put a hiring freeze in place to curb govt growth.
     
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    ...uhhh, the money in question that I asked about is government revenue...and Government employees outnumber manufacturing employees by nearly 2 to 1. And Trump is supposedly going to somehow "rebuild" the US military, so no, the math does not work

    ...and simply putting a freeze on government hiring does not even come close to addressing the government behemoth that already exists.


    ...so I'll restructure my question, "If taxes for both the middle class and companies are "massively cut", where will government revenue come from?
     
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    I guess we can call Trump and his men "The Alternative Administration"! Thank you KellyAnne Conway!
    Too f'kin funny.
     
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    ^^^Kellyanne Conway and "alternative facts"...have you ever heard of anything so inane?...and the scary thing is that she was actually serious.
     
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    Ron, this is just the beginning........this could be better than Saturday Night Live. We'll be getting
    it 24/7. I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
     
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    Govt revenue still comes from taxes, leases, royalties, penalties and fines, tarrifs, etc.

    3 main sources of taxes: personal income taxes (47%), payroll taxes (33%), corporate income taxes (11%). In terms of the targeted middle class, please note bottom 50% have no tax liability. So really you are only looking at cutting 10% of total govt revenue if you reduce Corp tax and middle class taxes by half.

    All it would take is a moderate increase of GDP to offset. Which can't be viewed in a vacuum, have to factor in new trade agreements and regulatory relief actions underway.

    Trumps fiscal team is targeting 4% growth. At that rate revenues will not only support beefing back military, but can also start looking at balanced budget amendment and debt paydown.

    Had this discussion with a buddy who is Sr at a major hedge fund, he hates Trump more than you but believes the fiscal policy emerging is sound.
     
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    ..."the bottom 50% have no tax liability"? (middle class)...lol, more "alternative facts" from the Trump kool-aid factory...also, please revisit the definition of "middle class".

    ...and you might want to research what Trump's supposed master plan will actually do as opposed to using "fuzzy math" because his tax cuts for the real "middle class", not to mention corporate taxes, are by no means "massive"....as I've said many times, "merely saying something doesn't make it so".

    here; http://www.usatoday.com/story/money...-trump-plan-would-mean-tax-increase/94427186/

    ...and I'm well aware of where the "3 main sources" of revenue come from (I can google too) and sorry, but again, your "math" just doesn't work and is is woefully inaccurate and to even mention "leases, royalties, penalties and fines, tarrifs" is laughable...would you like to research some more to see how little they contribute to the total government piggy bank?

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    Roughly 80 percent comes from the individual income tax and the payroll taxes that fund social insurance programs. Another 11 percent comes from the corporate income tax, and the rest is from a mix of sources.

    So as you can see cutting corporate and middle class taxes as your "fuzzy math" referenced "by 50%" would not equal "10%".
     
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    Sounds like Trump has mistaken 'the art of the deal' for left over Voodonomics...!
     
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