OT ...Trump...beginning of the end?

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  1. Godzuki

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    Well I should state that I'm very pro Israel, especially in light of Hamas being the "leadership" for the Palestinians.

    I care much more for their opinion, I think the UN and many EU nations (though not all, some want to follow our example and move their embassy as well) are way too anti Israel.

    You tell me how you're supposed to negotiate with Hamas? There will never be peace so long as Hamas is the Palestinian government. You can't deny the Jews their right to be in Jerusalem, and moving our embassy there IMO is the right way to go. Don't give in to Hamas/terror one inch.

    We have an embassy there, diplomatic relations are not butting our nose in anywhere it doesn't belong, and it's legit to put it in Jerusalem.
     
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    Who are you or us as a country that can make a statement "You can't deny the Jews their right to be in Jerusalem" Careful with your response as the multiple Indian Nation leaders may take you up on any of your thoughts.
     
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    makes me think William Blake's Poem, set to music byof an old classic ELP tune great Emerson, Lake and Palmer tune....

    "And did the Countenance Divine,
    Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
    And was Jerusalem builded here
    Among these dark Satanic mills?"


    Hard to believe the tune was banned in England, being too controversial, wtf, 1973- classic

     
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    ^^^ Thank you, Sir for adding more common sense to the convo...but again, when dealing with Trumpists you are wasting your breath with simple logic and facts..."it confuses them and/or pisses them off".

    ...ask them to provide facts to back up their claims and you won't get any...all you'll get is blind faith and false bravado.
     
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    At some point you have to say "things are settled", and there was a treaty that should have done that a long time ago - after WWII.

    Or do you want to put every country up for grabs, because over history they've all switched hands several times. From Khan to Napoleon to the Ottomans, humans conquer.

    At some point it needs to stop, I think WWII was a good place. At any rate, there is no negotiating with Hamas for who might get what part of Jerusalem. Hamas wants it all, wants every inch of Israel, and wants all of the Jews that live there dead. I wouldn't let a death cult like that place any restrictions on what the US does in Jerusalem, we can have our embassy there if we want. Doing so tells Hamas in no uncertain terms that Jerusalem will never be yours 100%, the Jews have a claim to it that won't ever go away.
     
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    I love hearing from uninformed sources.
     
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    That's a little vague. At any rate, human conquest is indeed a thing, has been throughout history. Native American Indians aren't a citation that means the Jews are wrong to be in Israel.

    At some point, you have to decide who has what, where the borders are. That will never be done with Hamas, Jerusalem will never be a place that Jews won't exist in, Period.
     
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    Thanx Matts...and let's not forget the 1967 war.
     
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    Now there's a side to Trump (and it's always existed) the MSM doesn't like to show you.

    Nope, he's a racist because he opposes illegal immigrants :P
     
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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/30628/exclusive-cheesecake-factory-employees-attack-ryan-saavedra

    See this is what the MSM does to people. They literally form angry mobs over a baseball cap and would taunt, threaten and call a black man the N word - just for his beliefs.

    I think with things like this happening, and with people like Kanye West and Candace Owens out there red pilling folks, the Dems are going to start to lose their stranglehold on the black vote.

    And if that happens, they're going to be sitting at the political kiddie table for a long time. They need some policies that benefit Americans, not Mexicans, and to stop trying to divide people.
     
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    Matts, don't you just love it when Trumptards try to convince you that certain news outlets which don't fit their narrative are biased and unreliable, then conversely proceed to cite a source of their own to support their myopic agenda, as if in fact, that their source is somehow completely unbiased and reliable?


    ...classic case of self-inflicted self-ownage....this is some funny shit.
     
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    "Joseph says the staff pointed and laughed at him, booed him, "smacked their knuckles" near him, and refused to fill his water glass, which led his group to call the cops. Miami-Dade Police dutifully showed up to the chain restaurant, where Joseph's group reported that the waitstaff was "gathering around [his] table and cracking their knuckles," according to a police report.

    But the cops found that "no threats were made" and "no physical altercation occurred" before closing the case without charges. Still, Joseph tells New Times that he felt physically threatened by a couple of people leering at him and that he felt particularly targeted because he was a black man wearing a pro-Trump hat."

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    ...hmmm.
     
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    "clean up on aisle 5 ! "...

     
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    NPR? What do you expect.

    Follow Candace Owens on Twitter.
     

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