What does this mean? I don't get it. When the word gets out openly and widespread to the people about how Cruz in coordination with the RNC is trying to steal delegates away from Trump in two states (Arizona and Louisianna) which Trump won, it's only going to sink the Republican Party deeper and help Trump. And don't be surprised if we find out about more of this disgusting practice by the Republican Party machine of literally trying to steal the nomination away from Trump AS HE CONTINUES TO MAINTAIN A LARGE LEAD in States won, the popular vote, and delegates. Evidently, contrary to a couple of opinions on this board (what else is new?), there are millions of people who trust Trump WILL legally do the right things and try and put forth policies which will seriously address the 20 trillion deficit, protect and help American Companies, end the ongoing national suicide of making bad trade deals, treaties and policies which are one-way streets with America and it's "workers" getting screwed. Maybe, perhaps, possibly, there are a few people out there who think Trump is the only billionaire, real estate developer, builder and businessman who has used the system, used hard scrabble tactics in his dealings with others from the same landscape. The difference is Trump is the one with balls, speaking his mind, telling the PC crowd he isn't afraid..... and running for President. Time for some to step out of Candy Land and REALLY face the cold hard world. The RNC is probably going to use tactics and "rules" which have been unprecedented in modern American history to oust Trump....and do you know why(?).....because they will be out of business if Trump wins! Trump is THE biggest most successful (up to this point) populist candidate in modern American history..... Cruz has suddenly become the darling of the RNC, he's out there trying to hijack delegates from those who dropped out AND from states which Trump won.....Cruz is NOW the mainstream RNC candidate- doesn't that tell you something? And by the way- it's time for Kasich to end the charade and take a hike- but he won't/can't, he's part of the RNC coup against Trump. The people aren't going to be happy when they see "their" populist LARGE VOTE GETTER get screwed over. And Trump has gotten many MORE votes than Cruz.....that's the FACT!
a candidate not even on the ballot, or currently running, can always emerge as well: (and there could be several other possible candidates, the GOP would rather see represent their party... http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...tested-convention-nominee-dominate-wisconsin/
For those with ruffled feathers, don't swim in the tar pits- no diff from throwing stones in glass houses.... ________________________________________________
...lol...there were "millions of people" who trusted Obama and voted for him...twice. ...and people are not "stealing" the nomination from Trump...little by little he's giving it away.
hey now i'd like a little credit for saying I thought Trump was going to blow this on purpose. now my original premise was that Cruz was using Trump to take out the opposition, but they turned on each other when Trump didn't take the dive in the 5th. that's pride talking to you Butch....fuck pride.
Lol, the difference is Obama got the benefit of the doubt because he WAS a well spoken candidate, an African American and many moderates, Independents, of course TONS of minorities, every liberal, vast majority of big labor unions (yes they do exist) and probably a handful of centrist Republicans felt he was the one to take a flyer on as the first African American President. But, of course there WERE plenty of voters from the center and right who "already knew" a minority candidate from the DEMOCRAT PARTY will eventually take off the costume and lean left and govern accordingly. Say what you may about Trump, but IMO he may not be a hardcore conservative (which is alright with me), but he certainly is anti-left and will lean more to the center-right. Maybe this is what the Republican party has been lacking instead of the usual parade of candidates trying to out-conservative each other with the same stale mantras while the deficit kept growing, millions of illegals invading the country, American businesses NOT being convinced or obliged to keep their companies stateside. We know about the Democrat Party being firmly taken over by the leftwing base, but it has been the so-called opposition party Republicans which has fiddled the past couple of decades while American has slipped closer to being a large mishmash lower standard, debt riddled nation of "diversity".
And Matt, in all seriousness, if the RNC pulls out all the stops and enact numerous rule changes during the Convention to put in some other person who has already been whipped by Trump or some other new guy as their nominee instead of the candidate (Trump) who has the LARGE lead in delegates and popular votes, there will be a revolt unseen before in the general election in Nov by the "people" who will turn off their TVs, stay home and send the RNC a resounding message and the GOP Nominee will get clobbered.....poor guy or gal will look like a puppet joke. Can't change the RNC Convention "rules"..... but I have an inkling many many people will say RNC rules be dammed, we want to see Trump get the chance to campaign directly vs Hillary in the months leading up to the November election. THAT's what the people want to see....imho. And of course, I could be wrong.
...Tote, it may have been you I and talking about it...Mess too...it's been awhile...can't remember for sure. ...and btw, nice Pulp Fiction reference too !
Yep, Ike had 595, Taft had 500. Taft had won six States , Ike won five. Not exactly a convincing clear cut large difference. They thought Taft was too conservative and Ike would have the better chance, AND, Taft was accused of stealing southern delegates from Ike.....hmmm....beginning to sound familiar with Teddy Cruz trying to pull a couple of fast ones on Trump...except (at this point) Trump has a fairly large decided lead....unlike Ike/Taft Eisenhower - supreme commander from world war2 with a smallish lead in delegates.....a quite reasonable and acceptable outcome from that Convention. Nothing nearly appearing outlandish or crooked.
...and oh, big difference in delegates between 1952 and 2016...math 101. ...and if Cruz or Kasich are breaking any rules, I'd like some examples.
Think maybe Salon has an anti--Trump agenda and also conducting some wishful thinking......dreaming? This is the second link you recently posted from outlets which are liberal to say the least alluding to Trump wanting to get out of the race and try and bow out gracefully. Huffington Post & Salon Magazine. Whaddya think? See a pattern here?
Kasich - for the THIRD TIME, is currently in this race to siphon votes away from Trump and Teddy is all for it as they both are following the RNC's "anybody but Trump" playbook. Remember, Trump today has called for hopeless Kasich to drop out of the race. Does this sound like a guy who is afraid to challenge Cruz head to head and is looking to "get out of the race"? Think about it.....and no, of course there are no obvious rules being broken (thus far), and I also don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows....and neither do many other Americans. Stop trying to be coy.....I know you're smart and playing the game. This mean spirited anti-Trump campaigning conducted by the Republican Mainstream is going to backfire on them especially if Trump continues to hold a sizeable lead and enters the Convention with a sizeable lead - meaning hundreds of more delegates. We'll see how things shake out. Either way, the sun will come up.
...yeah, the "pattern" is that I think Trump is a spoiled rude misogynist bully who's not fit to be president...clear it up any? ...if this is news to you, then you have not been paying attention. And if my anti-Trump links rattle your cage and are a source of angst for you, you'll just have to live with it...and Kasich believes he can win...if that's not being too "coy". ...still waiting for examples of Cruz/Kasich breaking any rules. ..."the Trump train will derail"...again, live with it.
I have no problem whatsoever with your negative opinion of Trump or the links you post - I welcome the opportunity to express my rebuttals when I feel necessary and I kinda find some of these draconian opinions of Trump rather humorous. Seems to me, and I could be wrong - when the left-liberal publications and pundits attack Trump, it means they fear him...as in him beating their ordained Queen Hillary. The question: why aren't those liberal pundits and lefty outlets criticizing Cruz anywhere near what they say about Trump? After all, Cruz DOES have a fair chance to gain the 1237 delegates and it may be common knowledge he could be the favorite to gain the nomination at the convention even if he's way behind Trump in delegates. Cruz is a far right ultra conservative who doesn't even believe in abortion in cases of rape ect..... They don't fear Cruz because he'll be easy pickings in the general election vs Hillary. He is poison in most states which aren't dead Red States. My opinion, no way far-right Prez candidates win the general election in 2016 and the foreseeable future unless a quirky unforseen calamity or disaster arises close to election time....or some kind of October surprise crippling the Democrat's chances. jmho
...and your views of Cruz and/or Kasich has not been somewhat "draconian"?...please. ...do I really need to go back and copy and paste to refresh your memory?....."people who live in glass houses..."
C'mon '59, my criticism of Cruz and Kasich isn't exaggerated or draconian. I have repeatedly called Cruz an ultra conservative who appears to me as also being too rigid and inflexible. For crissakes sales he's against abortion in ANY case- rape, incest AND the health of the woman at stake. Is this NOT an ultra-conservative and a far right opinion? He's entitled to it, and it's mainly due (according to him) his religious beliefs. It is what it is.....and when they point out Trump's unfavorable ratings amoung women - how the heck do you think Cruz will do amoung women in an election vs Hillary? Plenty of parents who have daughters, plenty of sisters and mothers... "against abortion under ANY circumstances". I'm afraid I too disagree with his stance on this hot button issue. And he's bringing his religion into the equation. Now am I being draconian, unfair and irrational in my opinion? Is he not far right of center? I've also said he seems like a good guy.....he's just a bit too far over to the right imo to beat just about any run of the mill DEMOCRAT in the election and he has already shown tendencies of being unable to WORK WITH his colleagues in the Senate. The guy is too rigid, imo.....that's my assessment......is this an outrageous exaggerated opinion? If you think so, that's fine,your opinion. As for Kasich, I've called him "wishy washy" and he doesn't (imo) stand tall and decisive on any one singular "main" issue. And at this point he's only staying in the race to help deny Trump getting to 1237 and hopes to somehow be a significant player in a contested Convention. I don't believe I've labeled either Cruz or Kasich an idiot, facist, Hitler, racist or unstable to the point of destroying America as is the case with much of the criticism of Trump on this board. I have said - months ago, I simply believe and convinced Trump (when the dust settles and IF he's the president) is just as able and capable of as any of the others from both partys. jmo I know Trump is crude and rough around the edges as a campaigning candidate....I just am not buying into the narrative that he'll be insulting foreign leaders on their appearance or facial looks while he's on the phone or in meetings with them. One of the best kept secrets (lol) is this guy has friends and business associates all over the world and probably has more worldly experience and familiarity with countries than the rest of the field. Cruz and Kasich are, and have been professional politicians their whole adult life...they specialize in TALKING..... Republicans have had control of both Houses for a while and Obama has managed to get just about everything he wanted in his budgets including the latest disaster costing 4 billion with money already set aside for future immigrants and Syrian refugees...and the Republican majority wouldn't, couldn't even get "Kate's Law" passed. An utter DISGRACE!
